bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:15
- 5719 of 27111
Yes Fred - "I will squelch II until he is more constructive" how do you know unless you read ? LOL ;-)
Its an old trick - IMO they try to influence newbies into squelching people as they are afraid of them reading what is posted - that people need to keep saying "I squelched him" and then again "I squelched him" and later 1 week say the same again - its quite pathetic - but it serves a purpose of showing people for who they are and what their interest is - discussion - or just only spin and hype to get the price up and suck more people in.
Stanelco is in a very very risky stage now - thats why they are turning on me - as they cannot discuss the company they try to Bash the poster with a negative view - it means there is severe weakness now in SE0.
The MMs are now selling large volume at mid or under mid price - that means they expect trouble ahead and are clearing out.
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:17
- 5720 of 27111
Those who need to talk about squelching - never squelch IMO ;-)
Looks like 200K volume gets you mid price - over 200K volume you can buy below mid price - is that a bargain - or a warning sign ? ;-) DYOR !!!!!
hewittalan6
- 10 Jun 2005 15:19
- 5721 of 27111
Serious question ii. You state that MM's are selling large volumes at mid or under mid price. How do you know that? I see trades go through and I see the price that the trade was at, and I see the computers guess as to whether it was a buy or a sell. But thats it. I am very interested to know how you can state with certainty that a deal at or below mid price is a buy?
wilbs
- 10 Jun 2005 15:21
- 5722 of 27111
Must be his insiderinside information.
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:21
- 5723 of 27111
hewitt - those who trade on line can never know.
Phone your broker and ask him what price to buy for 200K and 500K - ask them to go the market and see what price can be got - then decline the trade after they get the price from the market.
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:22
- 5724 of 27111
You always get the best trading prices from a broker - on line trading is quick and easy but you get messed on the price.
driver
- 10 Jun 2005 15:22
- 5725 of 27111
hewittalan6
- 10 Jun 2005 15:26
- 5726 of 27111
So how does this square with post 5709 showing that at 14.35 4 MM's wanted to Buy and only 1 wanted to sell. I am now confused as surely if only 1 were selling then he could command a premium, not a discount?
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:30
- 5727 of 27111
Lets just wait - and see ;-) IMO the MMs are on a promise of an RNS early next week to assist with clearing those 44M - if we do get large buying next week - and the price hardly moves up - you know why.
If we can actually go about 10 days without yet another SE0 RNS (might start calling them PRNF (public relations news flash) - meaning no RNS next week - then it will be very weak.
I am waiting for a salad talk RNS - but they might avoid that for fear of abusing the RNS system (Asda is in effect with 1 order so no more need for trial news).
hewittalan6
- 10 Jun 2005 15:32
- 5728 of 27111
Couldn't get an answer to post 5726 from ii, so can anyone else explain this apparent anomoly to me. Seriously guys, if I am missing the point, I am still on a learning curve.
Alan
bhunt1910
- 10 Jun 2005 15:34
- 5729 of 27111
Fred - you can normally guage when II is back on the thread by the reaction of others. Eric tends to monitor his posts - and if he become too obtuse - he generally comments on them. I choose to ignore his postings
I place more faith in the likes of Eric, driver, Bos, Andy etal (especially Andy whi is actually in the packaging business) than I do with II. I may be wrong - but Eric, Driver, Boswell, Andy etal have so far got an exemplary track record - which is more than I can say for II. I think if the mood chganges - there will be others that will start to question the current strategy - so I for one am not going to read through the pages of misinformation (in my opinion) that is posted by II.
......and whats more - it feels good.
Baza
Phart68
- 10 Jun 2005 15:34
- 5730 of 27111
Top Reasearch driver, well done.
V helpful.
Sequestor
- 10 Jun 2005 15:38
- 5731 of 27111
They -mm`s- are not interested in premiums or discounts 90% of the time , thats not to say they don`t use the situation to cash in as appropriate.Almost all of their money is made on the spread, the "mm`s playing games" theme is bb-BS.
MM`S are merely glorified barrow boys shouting their wares at a fixed profit (spread) if they see the market becalmed they will move the price to suit trades, up or down, they care little, and very rarely hold shares , why would a bookie own a horse?, they use derivatives to hedge.
gardening must come first
offski.
superrod
- 10 Jun 2005 15:40
- 5732 of 27111
hewitt....
i assume heavy buying next week with no sp increase means the 44million i(or part) is being dumped.
jimmy b
- 10 Jun 2005 15:45
- 5733 of 27111
Wealth Warning..The price of shares can go up as well as down,,make sure you understand the risks before you buy,,your stake could become worth more than your original investment.
This could result in you having to spend endless winters moored off the carribean in a 300ft yacht, or something similarly unpleasant....
insiderinside
- 10 Jun 2005 15:46
- 5734 of 27111
Thinking about it - the only way they might be able to comment on more trials is a "By the way" part of another RNS - so they might try it on when/IF the Biotec deal is approved - we might get another load of "expect" "hope" and all that about the potential future with Biotec (this loss making company) - they can then also say about the trials. You have to laugh - the loss making Biotec - potentially sold as the owner is losing money with it - will suddenly IMO become another jam tomorrow string to SEOs bow - loads of hope - expect - could - potential and like wording to go with the RNS IMO. More Jam Tomorrow anyone ? ;-)
wilbs
- 10 Jun 2005 15:46
- 5735 of 27111
Nice one jimmy b.
jimmy b
- 10 Jun 2005 15:51
- 5736 of 27111
I just thought it only fair to post that warning wilbs..
wilbs
- 10 Jun 2005 15:54
- 5737 of 27111
Im glad you did jimmy cos I now think this game is not for me. The carribean in a 300ft yacht!!! No way!!!
superrod
- 10 Jun 2005 15:55
- 5738 of 27111
jimmyb,wilbs,
i think you are both very naive. if the only way is up, everyone and their mother would be buying this.
on the plus side, knowing that so many diehards are seo fans will make my exit a lot easier when the time comes.
no offence intended to ANYONE.......i just cant believe that peeps are parting with dosh and have little grasp of reality.