Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MAnuel,

I am beginning to question your hold on fact or reality.

At sometime, or other, many of the present day problems including immigration will have will be addressed as World Problems by all the major powers (and minor countries.)

The positioning you seem to advocate is the value of "self advancement" at the expense of others. The "I am all right Jack and let the others go hang." Primitive thinking, practice by those who think they are "special or elite". The strongest will will survive and to hell with the rest. (Slavery, Fascism, Racial hatred is demonstrative of this philosophy to a lesser degree. All of which have failed or are failing,)

Recall the 60s and "we shall overcome". Sometimes you appear to be a relic of that period.

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Right now check what the "immigrant" community add to the economy of the UK.

Check how the provide the "oil" for the functioning of the economy.

Check what they do for the "Social and NHS services" and over areas.


Cameron is already begging other countries for Doctors and Nurses and other professionals.

Look for the reasons why.


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I have been always been aware of my own personal irrelevance and been faintly amused by it.

No problem with recycling, but I doubt that I am as toxic as you seem to be, and my remains will hopefully improve the soil they are disposed in.

Have a better day!

I'm not in this debate any more, can't be bothered ,i'm right ,i always am :)

Jimmy jumper... a legend in his own woollens -):

JB,

Are you sure?

Look over you shoulder, there is a Manuel about!

8-)

fred - if you looked back far enough - or was there an immigration thread at some time? - you would see that i am a strong advocate of immigration and remain so, but not on the stupid open-door policy currently being allowed

Alf you say BL and the "Con'" Government let to many in at once and you blame both, so why are you voting the "Con" artists in again then?

Manuel,

I did notice your previous stance and recent modification of opinion (surprised me, as I thought you to rigid to change. 8-)).

The effects of the "integration" into EU and "grants" and ease of trade will improve the GDPs of Romania and Poland, (They already are "improving".)

Improved living standards will lessen the gain and wish to migrate.

I would expect the level to drop, from Eastern Europe, (? Ukraine). However the Middle Eastern and African "problems" may encourage many to wish to escape to Europe and the UK.

If it does that may stimulate the "immigrant" problem in a slightly different way.


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I often tease some Asians as why they wish to come and live in a cold, damp, miserable country like England, when they could have stayed at home in the warmth.

Answers, generally to get a job, to get an education for their children, "standard" of living and earn enough money to go home sometime in the future.


(Occasionally, the response was to escape the wife. He had my sympathies.)

Stan,

Manuel has suggested this tory leadership is a useless bunch, thinks the same of labour lib.dem and the kipper party, but then decries me for not voting in the G.E. for and a further period of inadequacy.

Asking, me to validate one or other party and it's policies, but at the same time decrying the policies.

Stan, Manuel is getting old and confused.

You will have to forgive him.

Or do you have to?

no more confused than i ever was ... indeed not at all
i strongly believe that we have an obligation to vote in a democracy, and i shall therefore vote for the whom i consider the least worst
if there was an outstanding person even of labour or ukip hue or even worse standing in this constituency, i hope i'ld vote for that person - eg i could easily see myself voting for farage, though i think his party is overrun by a bunch of total nutters (MrT is a prime example!)

Fred you are so right... yet again about Alfredo -):

So as I say Alf, you are voting "Con" yet again, thank you for the confirmation.

That is reading between the lines of course.

I shall now retire for foodingtons.

Love it. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DC,

Which bit of it?

All of it , lol.

i now know who is our MP .... another grey man who has been an MP for an awfully long time and now has a safe seat .... yes he'll get my vote by default

What a waste!

Just thought I'd pass this on.... how correct it is ...... don't know.,.

Subject: o a p


Read on and pass on:
Dear Prime Minister The RT. Hon. David Cameron, MP.

I wish to ask you a Question:- "Is This True?"

I refer to the Pension Reality Check.

Are you aware of the following ?

The British Government provides the following financial assistance:-

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
(bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National
Insurance contributions to the British Government all their working life)
Weekly allowance: £106.00?

IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
(No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever)
Weekly allowance: £250.00

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £25.00?

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £225.00

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £0.00?

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £100.00

A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an illegal
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing

BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000?

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900


Please read all and then forward to all your contacts so that we
can lobby for a decent state pension.

After all, the average pensioner has paid taxes and contributed to the
growth of this country for the last 40 to 60 years.

Sad isn't it? Surely it's about time we put our own people first.

max - in honesty, it wouldn't matter for whom i voted as this is a def safe seat .... our MP may be grey, but the oppos are invisible

Same here c, would be truly earth shattering if the tory incumbent was tossed out, but we hope to give him a scare :-)


Also, I think the grey vote will get stronger, because the oldsters are being shafted every which way.

See Balerboy's post above.

cynic - 03 Mar 2015 20:29 - 57216 of 57217

max - in honesty, it wouldn't matter for whom i voted as this is a def safe seat .... our MP may be grey, but the oppos are invisible.

How very typical of the "sheepish" Tory boy little Englanders view of life.

At least you lot there could organise some sort of opposition to the sitting "Con" Party git.