Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

you can if you set certain assets up correctly ..... it's often termed legitimate avoidance

Manuel,

SP will move on expectations!

But the realities of the economy will become more obvious a month or two after the election.

My guess is that "builders" will continue on the up.

Maybe, crossing my legs.

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Buffet.

As long as postponed Tax Payments include "interest" above inflation and earnings from the "loan", then it "maybe" acceptable.

Tax avoidance, is questionable and as said before there needs to be a "simplification" of the system.

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Max,

In the "old days" I often did, until I had a warning!

What a lying gutless PM appears to be.

A supposed leader, who is afraid of standing up for his own record in debate.

He must be rightly ashamed of his own party's record over the last 5 years

Reminds me of some third world countries who politics is derided by the present Con party leadership.

An empty chair is not what is needed, but a better solution would be an electric chair.

Amazing excuse that any debate before the manifesto is produced so the lies can't be argued in public view.

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I can understand why there maybe a further rush of defectors to Farage and his fellow Kippers.

At least he has the guts of some of his convictions.

Whilst I would agree with you about Cameroon, I can understand why he doesent want a debate.

There's nothing in it for him or the cons, and in all probability he would get his head handed to him.

It's a lose lose scenario.

max is correct ..... for cameron, it's a case of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't

I can understand his reasoning, but when as a leader of a country he can't stand up and defend himself and party in debate he is a moral coward.



He should wear the badge, but the voters will recognise him anyway.

I doubt that the image will be forgotten by the time of the election.

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Ps. my guess was he would come over better than Miliband, but Farage is different matter.

The election result is likely to cause the requirement for a coalition government.

Says who?

The Broadcasters? If so, which parties should be placed on the broadcasted debate?

Us? If so, which parties would we like to see on the broadcasted debate?

Practical Considerations:

1. The more parties there are debating, then the lesser the time the individual parties have to do their debating.
2. Each political party isn't worthy of having the same length of time for debate. Some parties are more improtant and deserve more air time than others. Primarily, there are two important parties: Conservative and Labour.
3. Smaller parties: Lib Dems, SNP, Greens, etc. should not be allowed the same length of time as the major political parties. Accordingly, let's hear what the broadcasters have to say about JUST THIS POINT. Until this particular point is agreed by EVERYONE CONCERNED, then the whole 'TV Debate Thing' is a fiasco!

The Greens won't take long if her radio ''interview'' is anything to go by.
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57274 ..... the incumbent is always the punchbag in these matters, though i concur DC presents much better than EM .....
NF or at least UKIP, is beginning to fray at the edges
however, NF is a very smooth operator even if many or even most of his popularist so-called policies actually lack any substance or feasibility

I do like Cameron's as a confidence trickster and the constant use of the blame game in holding the broadcasters responsible for the "confusion" around his non appearance at the debate/s.

The fragmentation of political parties and movement in numbers to "minor" parties is a reflection of his U-turn policies and for me obvious self advancing corrupt form of government.

As Cassandra's box has been opened, and I hope the debates go ahead with the empty chair, reflecting the emptiness of him and his present tory party "crony leadership".

Many voters will see him as a "moral coward" and remember his actions, when they vote in May.

He won't be able to rewrite his manifesto after the "debate" it is already written.

Send him to a fitting place, such as a banana republic.

Debate phobia shows Cameron is reluctant even to talk the talk


Prime minister’s gamble that being called a coward is better than actually facing Ed Miliband may be a gross miscalculation




http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/05/debate-phobia-shows-cameron-reluctant-miliband


British leaders are now protected, sanitised and risk-averse, which is why figures like Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Kenneth Clark have followings that transcend their parties.

It would be interesting to view Clegg representing the failed Tory Coalition in debate with Miliband, Farage in place of an empty or vacuous chair.

Might even record it

I see the NHS has sacked 79 bureaucrats after a government probe into tax dodging.
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I must have missed Fred's post on this subject ---- Migration Watch UK's 33 page report states the mess ''wasn't conspiracy or cock-up, it was both. It is the most in-depth and damning verdict yet on Labour's mishandling of immigration.
2517

Lord Green Migration Watch chairman said, ''a small but determined group appear to have manipulated immigration policy while deterring any opponents with false allegations of racism''
2517

perhaps fred was an adviser to them

perhaps fred was an adviser to them, for he's a great advocate of "open-door"

His silence on any (not just immigration) Labour cock-ups is deafening.
2517

PM faces being 'empty-chaired' as TV debates are expected to go ahead


Broadcasters say they won’t let one party dictate the terms, adding they may have legal grounds to show empty pulpit where David Cameron should be


David Cameron is facing headwinds over his refusal to take part in a head-to-head debate with Ed Miliband. Photograph: Rui Vieira/PA


Patrick Wintour, Tara Conlan and Frances Perraudin

Thursday 5 March 2015 16.50 GMT Last modified on Thursday 5 March 2015 17.20 GMT




Broadcasters are expected to press ahead with the TV election debates and believe they have legal grounds to “empty-chair” the Tories on the basis that they turned down a reasonable invitation to attend.

Channel 4, ITV, Sky and the BBC were discussing “a final offer” from No 10 on Thursday, under which David Cameron would attend one debate with the leaders of six other parties held the week before parliament’s dissolution. Cameron, criticised by other political parties for his reluctance, said he was only seeking to break the logjam created by the broadcasters’ handling of the debates.

Broadcasting industry insiders said they were bound by impartiality rules but are determined that no single party will dictate the terms of the debates.

One source said the thinking among the broadcasters was that they will hold the debates and if specific people did not want to turn up that would be their decision.


More: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/05/pm-empty-chaired-broadcasters-set-to-go-ahead-debates

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Isee the NHS has sacked 79 bureaucrats after a government probe into tax dodging.
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The Con Party isn't turning on its own.

Seems like the bunkers mentality of Berlin turning in on itself.

tut tut

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Manuel,

I suggest you read my references to "immigration" more carefully and not read inferences into the posting which are not there.

But I do not like seeing any groups stigmatised or having yellow stars pinned on them.

Much of the rhetoric and assertions made against "immigrants" are false and aimed at stimulating hatred of other groups.

A stinking way to lead debate and appeal for some voters and practiced by some in the current stinking tory party and other groups.