Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

perhaps fred was an adviser to them

perhaps fred was an adviser to them, for he's a great advocate of "open-door"

His silence on any (not just immigration) Labour cock-ups is deafening.
2517

PM faces being 'empty-chaired' as TV debates are expected to go ahead


Broadcasters say they won’t let one party dictate the terms, adding they may have legal grounds to show empty pulpit where David Cameron should be


David Cameron is facing headwinds over his refusal to take part in a head-to-head debate with Ed Miliband. Photograph: Rui Vieira/PA


Patrick Wintour, Tara Conlan and Frances Perraudin

Thursday 5 March 2015 16.50 GMT Last modified on Thursday 5 March 2015 17.20 GMT




Broadcasters are expected to press ahead with the TV election debates and believe they have legal grounds to “empty-chair” the Tories on the basis that they turned down a reasonable invitation to attend.

Channel 4, ITV, Sky and the BBC were discussing “a final offer” from No 10 on Thursday, under which David Cameron would attend one debate with the leaders of six other parties held the week before parliament’s dissolution. Cameron, criticised by other political parties for his reluctance, said he was only seeking to break the logjam created by the broadcasters’ handling of the debates.

Broadcasting industry insiders said they were bound by impartiality rules but are determined that no single party will dictate the terms of the debates.

One source said the thinking among the broadcasters was that they will hold the debates and if specific people did not want to turn up that would be their decision.


More: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/05/pm-empty-chaired-broadcasters-set-to-go-ahead-debates

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Isee the NHS has sacked 79 bureaucrats after a government probe into tax dodging.
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The Con Party isn't turning on its own.

Seems like the bunkers mentality of Berlin turning in on itself.

tut tut

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Manuel,

I suggest you read my references to "immigration" more carefully and not read inferences into the posting which are not there.

But I do not like seeing any groups stigmatised or having yellow stars pinned on them.

Much of the rhetoric and assertions made against "immigrants" are false and aimed at stimulating hatred of other groups.

A stinking way to lead debate and appeal for some voters and practiced by some in the current stinking tory party and other groups.

This man is on your side.

Is this what Cameron fright of:

A man with more side steps and reverses than an English Fly Half.

The opinion seems universal.



Long live the Dunkirk Spirit.

I think the tories need to disinter Maggie!

ONE FOR FRED !!!!

Even by the abysmal standards of today’s politics, Ed Miliband’s hypocrisy in attacking the Tories for their failure to curb immigration is truly jaw-dropping.
This is the man whose party presided over the most momentous demographic upheaval in our history, changing Britain beyond recognition as a deliberate act to expand Labour’s voter base.
Indeed, just how radical that revolution was emerges today, as a devastating audit by the Migration Watch think-tank finds an astonishing 7.23million migrants were allowed into the UK under Labour.
That’s one every minute of the party’s 13 years in power. Discounting those who left, net foreign immigration was 3.6million, or the combined populations of the five largest cities outside London

Anyone worried that Ed Miliband, who even stitched his brother up to get the power of the Labour Party leadership, might easily do a deal with the SNP to get in power once again, by agreeing to facilitate Scottish Devolution?

That deal will almost certainly include scrapping our nuclear deterrent, if that happens God help us.
2517

If Ed Miliband can stitch his own brother up what thought do you think he has for the rest of us?
2517

We'll be well fooked if these two team up..



Nicola Sturgeon says Trident conflict would not stop SNP backing other Labour policies


Scottish first minister says party’s support for minority Labour government would not be conditional on Ed Miliband scrapping nuclear missile system

Severin Carrell and Phoebe Greenwood

Friday 6 March 2015 08.08 GMT


Nicola Sturgeon has dropped demands that a minority Labour government must cancel a new Trident nuclear weapon in return for the Scottish National party’s backing at Westminster.

The SNP leader said that her party could comfortably vote for Labour policies on a case-by-case basis without a deal on Trident, after implying repeatedly in recent months that cancelling its £100bn replacement would be a critical issue for the party.

In a wide-ranging video interview with the Guardian, Sturgeon again played down the prospects of the SNP forging a formal coalition deal with Labour if, as the polls strongly suggest, her party overtakes Labour as Scotland’s largest party at Westminster by winning dozens of extra seats in May.

“It’s more likely to be an arrangement where we would support Labour on an issue-by-issue basis,” she said, in the first of a filmed series of leader’s interviews by the Guardian. “On that basis, there are many issues we could agree on which we would support but we would not vote for Trident.”



We will never vote for the renewal of Trident; that’s a decision which will be made in the next Westminster parliament

Nicola Sturgeon

Asked explicitly if that meant the SNP could still back Labour policies without Ed Miliband promising to scrap Trident, she did not disagree, replying: “But we would not in any vote support the renewal of Trident and I can’t make that any clearer than I have already made it.”


More: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/06/nicola-sturgeon-trident-snp-general-election-labour

meanwhile, this may have interesting repercussions .....

Le Pen lays out vision to govern France
National Front leader is the biggest political force ahead of a presidential election in 2017

Jimmy B.


What was Cameron's pledge on immigration?

A pack of lies based based on fallacious interpretation of EU rules, which he knew.

However, I suggest you ask somebody working for immigration services on cut backs under Cameron and chaos in the departments, trying to work out suitable policies to deal with problems.

Suggest you look at the EU regulations and Thatcher, Major's signatures on the treaties and their delight at thoughtless expansion and admission of the Eastern European countries.


Also, suggest if UK was of more importance to EU and more integrated then they would be in a better position to negotiate numbers and "usage" of "Welfare and NHS service".

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Exec.

Talking as a voting member of the knife in the back party your remark is laughable.

At least the Milibands knew that they were competing for a role which they both wanted.

The deals weren't done in the manner of the grandees of the confidence trickster party behind closed door.

Do you mean a younger brother should not run faster than the older brother, or compete for a situation.

(Bad luck on a twin born 10 mins later than the first one. Grow up.)

As far as a deal with SNP and Labour, they are both left of centre parties with many policies and values in common and certainly neither party would form a coalition government with the neo-fascist leadership of the present tory party. (I doubt that any other would do the latter other than a few cranks in the UKIP party.)

If the alignment after gave a working majority to SNP and Labour it would be sensible as there would be representation for the Scottish voters in an UK government.

Personally, if there is, as expected, a coalition or (alliance) government led by Miliband after the G.E., I would like to see representation of the Lib/dem party and possibly a "green" having some "office" in the government which would give a fairer representation for the majority of voters.

Ps.

Do you really want a chicken like Cameron as PM again.

Also, have a look at Osborne's economic policies and noticed the changes which he introduced 2+ years ago when he realised his previous policies were failing.

Like his master he goes whichever way he thinks the wind is blowing in order to hold on to power.

I know I stabbed my brother David in the back to gain power, but don't worry I will look after YOU. Yeah right.
Hypocrite Harman, I don't know why I singled her out the Labour party is full of hypocrites, anyway she's been keeping a low profile lately.
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My point was Fred that we are swamped with immigrants more than defending any party ...
And you can see we are !!!! millions !!!!!

I am growed up, Fred.

That's why I don't trust those scum bags at the top of the current Labour Party, who are promising anything and everything to everyone, hoping to gain power at any cost.

I actually want more of the same until Boris Johnson gets to be PM. Then I will be very happy - and also very well entertained by some very interesting politics.