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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Haystack - 23 Sep 2011 17:47 - 5735 of 6906

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/strenger-than-fiction/a-dangerous-erosion-of-israel-s-international-standing-1.386310

A dangerous erosion of Israels international standing

The day when global public opinion will consider Israel as another South Africa and push for sanctions against the country is drawing ever closer.

In 1955 Ben-Gurion coined his saying Um-Shmum, the expression of disdain against the UN that was followed by: It doesnt matter what the Goyim say, but what the Jews do. This may have been charming when Israel was a young country, and when Dayans not wearing a tie was seen as refreshing chutzpah. The disdain for the international community is now turning into Israels tragedy and failure with the Palestinian bid for UN recognition.

The UN has, of course, given Israelis many reasons to think that it is biased against Israel: the infamous resolution that Zionism is racism; the dismal record of the Human Rights Council with its preposterous bias against Israel and the anti-Israel spectacle of the Durban racism conference. Many Israelis have come to see human rights discourse as nothing but a cynical ploy used by Israels enemies to score diplomatic points.

Fred1new - 23 Sep 2011 18:44 - 5736 of 6906

I previously had a high opinion to Obama, I hope that he will not allow the use of the Veto in the Palestinian application, but expect he will cave into the Jewish lobby in the USA.

I think if he does so, it will be a disservice to the USA and an early resolution of conflict in the ME.

America and Israel (under its present administration) are isolating themselves more and more, losing any world respect they previously had.

Bernard M - 23 Sep 2011 18:53 - 5737 of 6906

Of course he will he is a pussy and they the jews of New York will make him do so.

Who do you think runs their Country.

Fred1new - 23 Sep 2011 19:08 - 5738 of 6906

I thought, or hope, he might have broken the mould.

Sad.

Haystack - 23 Sep 2011 19:34 - 5739 of 6906

No chance of Abbas getting his vote. He knows that. The purpose is to Isolate Israel and the US over the matter. It will also increase his chances of getting the vote in the generalassembly where he only needs 2/3 majorty. He should get that easily. Abbas got several standing ovations in sharp contrast to the muted response to Netenyahu's speech.

Haystack - 23 Sep 2011 19:45 - 5740 of 6906

Read this!

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/09/2011919102245537768.html

The humiliation of Barack Obama

As he prepares to singularly veto Palestine's statehood bid, he must be thinking to himself: 'This isn't right'.

TANKER - 23 Sep 2011 22:11 - 5741 of 6906

just read the tele graph tonight that says it all

fahel - 26 Sep 2011 20:25 - 5742 of 6906

Palestinian State Opposed By U.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jeqN8ROkE&feature=related

Fred1new - 27 Sep 2011 12:14 - 5743 of 6906


Perhaps if any havent watch the recent dispatches they may like to view the last episode of Dispatches on Channel 4.

The Wonderful World of Tony Blair

The stench is obvious.

They may understand a little more the corruption of USA, Britain and Israel, in their dealings with the Palestinians and the ME.

Also the underlying reasons for the conflicts


http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-102/episode-1


Haystack - 07 Oct 2011 11:56 - 5744 of 6906

This worth a read. It is from an Israeli newspaper.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-settler-leader-who-led-israelis-to-disaster-1.388656

Fred1new - 07 Oct 2011 14:14 - 5745 of 6906


Hays,

An interesting, article.

Modified the last paragraph and wondered how many individuals it could be applied to?

He was an honest man, and he had a vision which actually managed to change the face of reality. But all of that merely strengthens the need to argue with his opinions and deeds. In Barbara Tuchman's famous book, "The March of Folly," there are several examples of historic decisions which changed the face of reality, but led people to disaster.

TANKER - 13 Oct 2011 14:53 - 5747 of 6906

hamas to deport 200 of the released prisoners .there own people being deported .
loverly country they do not want them and they are palestians

Haystack - 13 Oct 2011 15:00 - 5748 of 6906

Wrong as usual. It is a condition specified by Israel to allow the release of certain prisoners.

TANKER - 13 Oct 2011 15:34 - 5749 of 6906

yes you are correct

mnamreh - 13 Oct 2011 15:42 - 5750 of 6906

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TANKER - 13 Oct 2011 15:43 - 5751 of 6906

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) A Hamas official said Thursday that close to 200 of the 450 Palestinians to be freed in the first phase of a swap for a captured Israeli soldier will not be allowed to return to their homes in the West Bank, ...
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mnamreh - 13 Oct 2011 15:44 - 5752 of 6906

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Haystack - 13 Oct 2011 16:04 - 5753 of 6906

Hamas have already said yesterday that they will be capturing a few more Israeli soldiers. It seems to be a reasonable strategy as Israel is holding about 11,000 Palestinian prisoners. The majority have no charges against them. They are just supporters of resistance against illegal occupation.

mnamreh - 13 Oct 2011 16:16 - 5754 of 6906

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