goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Chris Carson
- 08 Mar 2015 16:13
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Labour plan to make TV debates compulsory in law roundly mocked
SNP’s Alex Salmond asks if Prime Minister would be jailed for refusing to take part
Telegraph.
Chris Carson
- 08 Mar 2015 17:06
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Labour candidate rejects Tony Blair's £1,000 donation
Lesley Brennan turns down cash from the former prime minister to help her win the election
By Ben Riley-Smith, Political Correspondent11:34AM GMT 08 Mar 2015
A Labour parliamentary candidate has rejected a £1,000 donation from Tony Blair to help with her election campaign.
Lesley Brennan, who is the party's candidate in Dundee East, said she had discussed the gift with her team and decided not to accept it.
The decision contradicts her party's headquarters, which welcomed Mr Blair's decision to donate £1,000 to 106 battleground seats last week with just two months left before the vote.
At the time a Labour spokesman said: "We’re delighted that Tony Blair has given so generously to the local campaigns in the battleground seats our party is targeting at this general election."
But it seems the party's Dundee Seat candidate disagreed, tweeting: "Received donation from Tony Blair. Instinct was to not accept. Discussed with team. Dundee East is not accepting the £1,000."
The news a prospective Labour MP appears to believe Mr Blair's legacy is so toxic that she cannot accept his money is an embarrassment for the former party leader.
The SNP has repeatedly criticised the Mr Blair's controversial decision to invade Iraq and his abandonment of more traditional Left-wing policies while in office.
Polls suggest the SNP could win as many as 50 MPs at the next election as Labour voters abandon the party en masse in favour of the Nationalists.
Mr Blair had written to Ms Brennan and other candidates saying: "I know how hard it can be to raise money to fund a local campaign, but for you, in one of our 106 battleground seats, it is even more vital. This is where the election will be won for Labour and that is why I am making a donation to all 106 campaigns.
"As one of our key seat candidates you know better than most the scale of the challenge we face, but I have every confidence that with your drive, determination and organisational skills, you will deliver a successful local campaign that will also see our party returned to government."
Lesley Brennan @LesleyEastend
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Received donation from Tony Blair. Instinct was to not accept. Discussed with team. Dundee East is not accepting the £1000.
9:27 AM - 8 Mar 2015
Greg Pope @GregoryPope
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You're a Labour PPC and you get offered £1000 by Labour's most successful leader ever. You turn it down. Frankly, you don't deserve to win.
12:06 PM - 8 Mar 2015
MaxK
- 08 Mar 2015 17:11
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I think she is right...Blairhole really is toxic!
cynic
- 08 Mar 2015 18:07
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i think DC has certainly dug himself a hole and whether he can extarct himself with any dignity remains to be seen
Fred1new
- 08 Mar 2015 18:19
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Cynic,
All he has to do is another U-turn!
8-)
MaxK
- 08 Mar 2015 18:28
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He's good at them!
cynic
- 08 Mar 2015 18:32
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ah, but "with dignity" will be the problem
MaxK
- 08 Mar 2015 18:35
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I don't see how he can avoid the debates, because they will empty chair him if he don't turn up, and that would be a disaster for the tories.
Fred1new
- 08 Mar 2015 18:59
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The only Dignity left to Dodgy Dave is a the use of their funeral services.
He is a dead man walking having shown himself "Scared. Arrogant. Cynical. Hypocritical. Cowardly. Calculating. High-handed. Feeble. Duplicitous. Undemocratic. Chicken".
Max,
He is, along side Osborne a disaster for the tories.
MaxK
- 08 Mar 2015 19:18
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Fred.
Ozzy gets terrible press, but given the cards he was dealt with, he's not doing too bad imo.
Well, you know what I think of Cameroon. but that goes for Millibandus as well.
The most capable of the lib/lab/cons imo, is Cleggy, but he made a fatal error with the uni fee's, thought he could blame the cons...next stop Brussels?
Fred1new
- 08 Mar 2015 21:18
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Max,
When I played cards I used to look at the deck.
A large percent of the work of stabilisation of the economy was done before Osborne came into office.
He cock it up by ploughing to harshly the austerity program for 2 years plus before pumping money into the economy. That is why there has been a slower than necessary recovery and misery for poorest and less able to defend themselves in society.
But DEBT is up!
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I am not sure of Miliband, but with the hand and deck afte the election he had, he has done well. At least he seem collegial, which I think necessary for a successful PM with the reforms this country needs. Maybe I am wrong.
I think he is more capable than the right wing press suggest he is and certainly the right wing tory party are frightened of him, as can be seen by the constant arrogant attempts to smear him.
I have sympathy for Clegg and Cable and they had a difficult choice to make by forming part of the coalition, but I think their decision on Universities fees was wrong.
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Education, at all levels, is for the benefit of society as a whole and should be paid for out of general taxations.
If an individual earns a higher salary tax at a higher rate etc. to repay society for the advantage gained those earning lower salaries at a lower rate.
The high earners and lower earners are as necessary as one another to keep an economy functional and efficient.
(There are other arguments.)
Fred1new
- 09 Mar 2015 08:47
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We are all safe in Dodgy Dave's hands.
He has made a pledge!
LOL
When is next pledge or is it down to George and his next recipe for disaster!
ExecLine
- 09 Mar 2015 10:49
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So, do you know what the difference is between Sunni and Shia Muslims?
No? I thought not.
They both have roughly the same religious beliefs so the difference is mainly political:
http://islam.about.com/cs/divisions/f/shia_sunni.htm
There's more info' too on the above site.
The universal greeting of Muslims is 'Peace be unto you." Hmmm?
Do you know what the basic beliefs of ISIS are?
No? I thought not.
Apparently, followers of ISIS have 10 basic beliefs, most of which are pretty crazy:
Importantly, ISIS believes that those who do not convert to its version of Islam should be executed; it wants to cleanse the world of those who do not believe what it believes.
http://elitedaily.com/news/world/10-beliefs-isis-reveal-craziest-group-ever/705032/
ISIS believes that violence is the path to paradise.
From our point of view, ISIS is so blinded by its own delusional ambitions, that it does not care if it drags the rest of the globe into chaos in the process as it goes about its task.
It is perhaps the most radical group the world has ever seen.
Accordingly, ISIS must be taken seriously and responded to swiftly.
cynic
- 09 Mar 2015 11:19
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EL - not quite true, any more than catholic and anglican beliefs are pretty much the same, and history tells us what a bloody conflict that became
Fred1new
- 09 Mar 2015 11:33
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Actually, I looked at the "said differences" back at the Iran Iraqi war and quickly forgot them, relied on history of "Mohammedism" taught to me 60 years ago. (I was generally bottom but one of the class and that accounts for lack of knowledge.)
But how many could list 5 or more differences between the Church of England, Catholic Churches, Orthodox and then start on the various Welsh, Irish and Scottish Churches and Chapels, besides the more important Druids and Pagans.
Sometimes, I think religions are like soccer jerseys but worn on Sundays rather than Saturdays.
But again it has made me look it up!
Urhrhrhrh.
Fred1new
- 09 Mar 2015 14:55
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Just listened to Dodgy Dave telling stories.
Do you think his children believe him when he reads fairy stories to them.
With Dawkins's permission God help them!
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MaxK
- 09 Mar 2015 14:56
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By scaremongering about a possible Labour/SNP government, the Tories have turned from champions of the union to its inadvertent saboteurs
john harris
Monday 9 March 2015 13.39 GMT
Conservative party poster featuring Labour leader Ed Miliband in the pocket of former SNP leader Alex Salmond. 'For a party that habitually thunders on about the catastrophic idea of Scotland exiting the UK, this is pretty remarkable behaviour.' Photograph: Conservative party/PA
More:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/09/tory-attack-snp-union-labour-snp-government
Fred1new
- 09 Mar 2015 15:02
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The Cons shouldn't have given false promises.
How many tory MPS are there in Scotland.
Out of interest how many tory voters does the tory party have in Scotland.
The tories are becoming a laughing stock as the chickens come home.
8-)