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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 08 Mar 2015 17:11 - 57357 of 81564

I think she is right...Blairhole really is toxic!

cynic - 08 Mar 2015 18:07 - 57358 of 81564

i think DC has certainly dug himself a hole and whether he can extarct himself with any dignity remains to be seen

Fred1new - 08 Mar 2015 18:19 - 57359 of 81564

Cynic,

All he has to do is another U-turn!

8-)

MaxK - 08 Mar 2015 18:28 - 57360 of 81564

He's good at them!

cynic - 08 Mar 2015 18:32 - 57361 of 81564

ah, but "with dignity" will be the problem

MaxK - 08 Mar 2015 18:35 - 57362 of 81564

I don't see how he can avoid the debates, because they will empty chair him if he don't turn up, and that would be a disaster for the tories.

Fred1new - 08 Mar 2015 18:59 - 57363 of 81564

The only Dignity left to Dodgy Dave is a the use of their funeral services.

He is a dead man walking having shown himself "Scared. Arrogant. Cynical. Hypocritical. Cowardly. Calculating. High-handed. Feeble. Duplicitous. Undemocratic. Chicken".

Max,

He is, along side Osborne a disaster for the tories.

MaxK - 08 Mar 2015 19:18 - 57364 of 81564

Fred.

Ozzy gets terrible press, but given the cards he was dealt with, he's not doing too bad imo.

Well, you know what I think of Cameroon. but that goes for Millibandus as well.

The most capable of the lib/lab/cons imo, is Cleggy, but he made a fatal error with the uni fee's, thought he could blame the cons...next stop Brussels?

Fred1new - 08 Mar 2015 21:18 - 57365 of 81564

Max,

When I played cards I used to look at the deck.

A large percent of the work of stabilisation of the economy was done before Osborne came into office.

He cock it up by ploughing to harshly the austerity program for 2 years plus before pumping money into the economy. That is why there has been a slower than necessary recovery and misery for poorest and less able to defend themselves in society.

But DEBT is up!

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I am not sure of Miliband, but with the hand and deck afte the election he had, he has done well. At least he seem collegial, which I think necessary for a successful PM with the reforms this country needs. Maybe I am wrong.

I think he is more capable than the right wing press suggest he is and certainly the right wing tory party are frightened of him, as can be seen by the constant arrogant attempts to smear him.

I have sympathy for Clegg and Cable and they had a difficult choice to make by forming part of the coalition, but I think their decision on Universities fees was wrong.

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Education, at all levels, is for the benefit of society as a whole and should be paid for out of general taxations.

If an individual earns a higher salary tax at a higher rate etc. to repay society for the advantage gained those earning lower salaries at a lower rate.

The high earners and lower earners are as necessary as one another to keep an economy functional and efficient.

(There are other arguments.)




Fred1new - 09 Mar 2015 08:44 - 57366 of 81564

Man for the moment!

Fred1new - 09 Mar 2015 08:47 - 57367 of 81564

We are all safe in Dodgy Dave's hands.

He has made a pledge!

LOL




When is next pledge or is it down to George and his next recipe for disaster!

ExecLine - 09 Mar 2015 10:49 - 57368 of 81564

So, do you know what the difference is between Sunni and Shia Muslims?

No? I thought not.

They both have roughly the same religious beliefs so the difference is mainly political:

http://islam.about.com/cs/divisions/f/shia_sunni.htm

There's more info' too on the above site.

The universal greeting of Muslims is 'Peace be unto you." Hmmm?

Do you know what the basic beliefs of ISIS are?

No? I thought not.

Apparently, followers of ISIS have 10 basic beliefs, most of which are pretty crazy:

Importantly, ISIS believes that those who do not convert to its version of Islam should be executed; it wants to cleanse the world of those who do not believe what it believes.

http://elitedaily.com/news/world/10-beliefs-isis-reveal-craziest-group-ever/705032/

ISIS believes that violence is the path to paradise.

From our point of view, ISIS is so blinded by its own delusional ambitions, that it does not care if it drags the rest of the globe into chaos in the process as it goes about its task.

It is perhaps the most radical group the world has ever seen.

Accordingly, ISIS must be taken seriously and responded to swiftly.

cynic - 09 Mar 2015 11:19 - 57369 of 81564

EL - not quite true, any more than catholic and anglican beliefs are pretty much the same, and history tells us what a bloody conflict that became

Fred1new - 09 Mar 2015 11:33 - 57370 of 81564

Actually, I looked at the "said differences" back at the Iran Iraqi war and quickly forgot them, relied on history of "Mohammedism" taught to me 60 years ago. (I was generally bottom but one of the class and that accounts for lack of knowledge.)

But how many could list 5 or more differences between the Church of England, Catholic Churches, Orthodox and then start on the various Welsh, Irish and Scottish Churches and Chapels, besides the more important Druids and Pagans.

Sometimes, I think religions are like soccer jerseys but worn on Sundays rather than Saturdays.

But again it has made me look it up!

Urhrhrhrh.

ExecLine - 09 Mar 2015 12:55 - 57371 of 81564

Richard Dawkins is asked, "What if you're wrong?"

Fred1new - 09 Mar 2015 14:55 - 57372 of 81564

Just listened to Dodgy Dave telling stories.

Do you think his children believe him when he reads fairy stories to them.

With Dawkins's permission God help them!

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MaxK - 09 Mar 2015 14:56 - 57373 of 81564

By scaremongering about a possible Labour/SNP government, the Tories have turned from champions of the union to its inadvertent saboteurs


john harris

Monday 9 March 2015 13.39 GMT






Conservative party poster featuring Labour leader Ed Miliband in the pocket of former SNP leader Alex Salmond. 'For a party that habitually thunders on about the catastrophic idea of Scotland exiting the UK, this is pretty remarkable behaviour.' Photograph: Conservative party/PA



More: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/09/tory-attack-snp-union-labour-snp-government

Fred1new - 09 Mar 2015 15:02 - 57374 of 81564

The Cons shouldn't have given false promises.

How many tory MPS are there in Scotland.

Out of interest how many tory voters does the tory party have in Scotland.

The tories are becoming a laughing stock as the chickens come home.

8-)

Fred1new - 09 Mar 2015 15:09 - 57375 of 81564

Max,

The best part of that article was the comment:

"John is right about the Tories and Scotland, surprised he didn't find time to quote Massie regarding English Tories and their view of Scotland....'their arrogance is only surpassed by their ignorance'."


Seems a fair comment!

MaxK - 09 Mar 2015 15:29 - 57376 of 81564

I agree Fred, the comment section frequently is the best part of the articles.
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