Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred you really are one arrogant prick .
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Perhaps, reflect on 1930s in Germany and the rhetoric of that period.

Many might think the words reflect your core values
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The two lines above are what you wrote i don't need anyone to explain it to me .

Then get a dictionary and check the meaning of the words contained in the comment!

ah jimmy, i'm afraid you've been suckered by fred's default defense that i outlined earlier

Fred has several defences to criticisms of his posts. The prize is a carrot to anyone who can put them in a list.

i would like to say that fred sits on de fence, but that wouldn't be true
it would also be unkind and also not true if i hoped the palings had been well sharpened by vlad's soldiers

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Exec.

Interesting ".".

Be more specific about the defences you are suggesting I use without resorting to personal attack.

I am interested in your list, but hope that it is coherent and not too tortuous.

split chestnut is favourite :-)

I really can't be bothered to argue with any one in cyber space but i do like MAM and i have posted here for a very long time however i do take exception to be compared with someone who believes in the holocaust .

Even more to the point is if you knew about my life and the type of people i have worked/spent time with ,very few were white British .

jimmy - i THINK you made a typo .... please re-read, or least that post does not otherwise make much sense

In what way ? the only typo i made was that i didn't insult Fred !!

I hope he leaves my Mam out of it, or Dad maybe annoyed.

surely the holocaust was so-named by the survivors and others after the event

to hitler and his henchmen, it was merely the final solution to the "jewish question" and others who were deemed to fall into that sub-human category

Alright cynic don't get technical on me now .

i pretty much guessed what you were trying to say, though hadn't followed the nonsense ..... as fred knows, i can't be bothered with his silly diatribes, though occasionally he posts something sensible and interesting

we should put fred, MrT and mentor in the same room and only let out the last survivor .... it shouldn't take long :-)

jimmy b:

You say, at post 57431 above:

".......i have posted here for a very long time however i do take exception to be compared with someone who believes in the holocaust ."

Well, jimmy b, I for one believe that the 'holocaust', namely a genocide in which approximately six million Jews were killed by the Nazi regime and its collaborators, actually happened and is a factual and well documented proven event.

I also understand, that an additional five million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders are included by some historians.

This would bringing the total of people exterminated by the Nazi regime to something around approximately eleven million.

These killings took place throughout Nazi Germany and German-occupied territories and primarily during the period 1941 to 1945.

So....

What on earth do you mean?

i think fred may have compared jimmy to hitler, but i admit jimmy's post was slightly ambiguous

Manuel,

Sometimes, you are remind me of the village idiot who has just arrived outside the court of law, baying to the mob the accused should be hanged the accused, without having heard, or read the evidence, and without realising the “accused” had been found not guilty, exonerated and released.

But, seemingly, information is not you a criteria which you need in order for you to form an opinion.

Carry on scanning.
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JB,

Your post contained

“My point was Fred that we are swamped with immigrants more than defending any party ...
And you can see we are !!!! millions !!!!!


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Right,

First, walk up to a West Indian in Handsworth Birmingham and say to him “you lot are swamping the UK”.


He/she may say to you, "that is very Inflammatory of you", or laugh at you thinking you are joking, or even react differently.

Secondly pinpointing making scapegoats of a group in society, often provokes dysfunction which backfires on all of society.

That was one the methods of the Fascist and Mosely used in the 30s to obtain “power”.

Many see it as being used by UKIP, BNP and far right to gain political influence at the moment. Also, the constant “harping” about welfare “scroungers” and “workshy” bandied about and encouraged by IDS and cronies is conflating different problem and inflaming the situation.


Emotionally appealing, but is rewarding.
Hence my reason for suggesting “reflect”.

I was not suggesting that you are a fascist, but perhaps suggesting you may be a little blind to the effect of words chosen.

I also think that "immigration" has problems surrounding it which need to be addressed in sensible and coordinated way.


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Bur for now check the figures of those supposed “immigrants” who came in and out of the country.

Check the number of “students” who came into, but not registered leaving.

Check the number of expats coming home.

Etc.

A lot of the figures used are fictitious and the Border Control and Immigration Service departments have had their work force slashed by the present government.
But their figures are questionable.

Etc.
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Sometimes we are led blindly by the nose.
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I hope you have a better day to-morrow.

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Exec,

Total casualties of WW2 has been assessed as more than 80 million.

fred - are you actually suggesting that the number of immigrants has not and is not increasing dramatically?

For those of you questioning me ,i must admit i did get my words mixed up .
Fred referred to me as having the same views of 1930's Germany or Hitler .
Execline i don't know why you had to chip in as you could see what i meant .