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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

required field - 03 Nov 2016 18:35 - 5760 of 12628

Well looks like this thread is not yet dead......democracy is a shambles said somebody...a good dictatorship can be bliss......(I don't mean blitz).....it would be sensible that these things like the possibility of forcing a decision made by the british public into parliament on a brexit outcome using the courts should be well understood by the electorate way before the election was held.....this business of Sturgeon just out out of a scottish referendum defeat now trying to get another one going is just not good enough ; for a start it is unfair on the majority of scots that voted to remain in the UK and it is really just not acceptable that in a short period of time she is now pushing for another...there should be a time schedule decided previously that a minimum length of time say a decade should pass before any talk of referendums and independence can be held again......so it would be wise that the UK gets its governing ways in order ! before momentous elections are held....otherwise political chaos can ensue....

required field - 03 Nov 2016 19:25 - 5761 of 12628

Am I getting this right that if these minority revolutionaries north of the border get their way : England, Wales and Northern Ireland will have the pound and our Celtic friends in Scotland and Ireland will rejoice in the Euro !.....this is a crazy outcome......

cynic - 03 Nov 2016 19:52 - 5762 of 12628

why don't you guys get hold of the facts before blathering?

Claret Dragon - 03 Nov 2016 20:06 - 5763 of 12628

This must affect UK markets. The longer this drags
out,

cynic - 03 Nov 2016 20:11 - 5764 of 12628

it makes everyone nervous, though there is effectively zero chance that article 50 will not be activated
the US election could bring even worse repercussions if that nutter trump somehow gets in

Dil - 03 Nov 2016 21:20 - 5765 of 12628

Sturgeon said her MP's would vote as the way the will of the people had decided in the referendum.

She should have a word with the dickhead in charge of Wales otherwise Labour runs the risk of going the same way in Wales as it has done in Scotland.

Claret Dragon - 03 Nov 2016 21:33 - 5766 of 12628

Article 50

*Fugayzi*, fugazi. It's a whazy. It's a woozie. It's fairy dust. it doesn't exist. It's never landed. It is no matter. It's not on the elemental chart. It's not fucking real.

Fred1new - 04 Nov 2016 08:43 - 5767 of 12628

Fred1new - 04 Nov 2016 08:45 - 5768 of 12628

For Manuel.

Even better!

Dil - 04 Nov 2016 10:02 - 5769 of 12628

I do love the argument put forward by the elderly remoaner in the white jumper on Question Time last night that many people only voted leave as a protest so didn't know what they were doing.

How about all the brain dead muppets who have never had an original thought in their life and voted as they were told by their party leaders ? Did they have any idea what it was all about ?

Joe Say - 04 Nov 2016 12:22 - 5770 of 12628

Dil - don't talk sense

You know the remoaners can't handle it

But at least the labour politician understood the message her constituents had given her, and that of the british people

grannyboy - 04 Nov 2016 12:35 - 5771 of 12628

"But at least the labour politician understood the message her constituents
had given her, and that of the british people"

DO NOT be taken in by these fluffy words from the pro-eu MP's, their whole
ethos and plans are to delay and water down Brexit..

DO NOT BE TAKEN IN BY ALL THIS..'WE RESPECT THE VOTERS DECISION TO
LEAVE THE EU...BUT!!!!!...

Fred1new - 04 Nov 2016 14:29 - 5772 of 12628

Dil.

Are you talking about your fellow members of the tory party or your mates down the pub?


Perhaps, the party financiers in the Cayman Isles?

cynic - 04 Nov 2016 16:52 - 5773 of 12628

thanks fred; love it; hadn't seen the fascist gazette this morning

Claret Dragon - 04 Nov 2016 20:43 - 5775 of 12628

I can relate to the Remainers sense of grief about Referendum result. May 1997 was the low point for me too when that ***t Blair and the Labour party set about destroying the UK.

Fred1new - 04 Nov 2016 21:52 - 5776 of 12628

You are hoped that Cameron and May would finish it.

They both were and are too incompetent to do so.

Dil - 05 Nov 2016 07:30 - 5777 of 12628

Only ever voted Conservative once Fred but voted many times for Labour. Will never vote Labour again while Corbyn is in charge and nor will many others like me.

That's why he will never come close to winning a general election.

cynic - 05 Nov 2016 08:05 - 5778 of 12628

i remain uncertain as to what will finally pan out, even starting with article 50 having to be approved by westminster - i don't think the appeal court will overturn the first judgment whatever TM may trumpet

all i do know is that whatever deals are finally done with the brussels bunch, it will not be as expected and of course will leave many unhappy (hard cheese)

iturama - 05 Nov 2016 08:28 - 5779 of 12628

You do pontificate at times C.
Anti-Brexit parties would win 150 fewer seats than pro-Leave parties at a general election, analysis suggests. The PM should call their bluff and demand support, or else. I'd rather any election was after the new boundaries had been finally decided but if needs be bring it on before. I'm sure the Art 50 legislation can be framed in a way that is also a vote of confidence in the government.
As for the "justices" they don't have a clue about justice, just law. Lord Chief Justice Denning became famous for despatching justice not precedent. The 3 nancies in fancy dress should read some of his judgements and learn.
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