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BHG - good article.
Misdirection, distraction and directing public opinion are indeed their mainstays.
- Even Bill Cooper in his latter days - questioned whether he had been identified and profiled - and the possibilty that much of the information he had disclosed previously and gleaned from his former day job...may have been planted.

The other tactic is the strawman - plant some information for a potential whistleblower- that can easily be discredited at some point.
- Which then, (in the publics eyes), leads to everything that's revealed - being tarred with the same brush,
.....and similarly (by association) - discredited

Flipp - no problem. The more I discover about most folk, the more I confirm that people want community.

Governments do so much to destroy that.

Those with hidden agendas usually trip up sooner or later.

Whistleblowing timebomb is ticking Gaz. Its positively tantalising!

OK, I have just moved from the other place :)

Welcome flyingswan,

Gold and silver stepped up this weekend....quite a few are calling it for higher prices from here.

As is often the case with conflicts that now involve America and Russia - there will be a flight to PMs.

It's dirty but highly lucrative.

The Beck - sytem bring down - disclosure
- not come accross the final....output..
- but
- I think it will be "his" ....interview.... with this guy & what he has to say re this......

http://www.hagmannandhagmann.com/1/post/2013/06/glenn-beck-discusses-dhs-insider-its-about-to-get-ugly.html

ie - Becks - pre teaser - coverage of this article........Becks audio at the top
- transcript - beneath

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One of lifes little "unconnected" coincidences
(Hagman of the.... above website....carrying the original ...disclosure)

http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=427

Doug Hagmann, host of The Hagmann & Hagmann Report was involved in an altercation
- with armed authorities while driving on a city street early this morning.
- As reported, he suddenly and inexplicably found himself surrounded by police SUV vehicles and a cadre of police officers
- treating him as if he was a terrorist threat

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(Almost "proof of the pudding" -as some might say.

What happened to Glen Becks whistleblower? I was really looking forward to that.

http://patriotsurvivalplan.com/video.php?v=5&cid=102b3ba160c3610347375bdbac480a&affid=AP-1080&c1=b300x250&c2=&c3=

squirrel,

Have just listened to the above and it sounds too good to be true. Have you subscribed to this?

mabel

Mabel - morning,

No I did not subscribe. I call it "sticky advertising". People who genuinely want to help society & community be sustainable do not charge folk.

I don't charge folk but I have published 3 books & run a website for free. Not for these forums.

Who wants to live in an inhospitable world where we lose freedom, love & community spirit at the hands of dictators & meglamaniacs.

My readership are encouraged to be frugal, have PMs, some collectables & to create their own sites & products. I do not sell information other than the books which the internet online bookstores take care of.

I don't have time for cons, apathy, spins.

This becks character seems to be a spinner.

I think gold could bounce at any moment.

It sounds like the Coop is about to be Cyrused?

The Co-op Bank will this week announce plans to fill a 1.5bn-pound hole in its finances. The rescue, brokered with the Bank of England's Prudential Regulatory Authority, will see 5,000 investors take a haircut on money they lent to the bank...

http://news.sky.com/story/1104599/co-op-bank-seeks-to-fill-1-5bn-capital-hole

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/troubled-cooperative-bank-unveils-rescue-plan-8661275.html

Good find swan.

Glad I didn't put money into the co-op. Got my £1 membership fee back when I exited the UK. Sold my premium bonds too - thats another questionable "investment".....

squirrel,

I mistakenly thought that by providing the link, you were endorsing it. I personally am suspicious of this type of advertisement, however, it can be a fine line between providing a genuine service and taking advantage. We have to make the decision for ourselves.

mabel

A bit more on the CoOp here:
http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/banking-scandals-cooking-up-the-hook-ups-that-turned-into-fk-ups-and-britains-first-bailin

Mabel - agree.

Co-op first. Tesco/sainsburys next? Why would anyone bank with a supermarket chain?

Are the supermarket banks wobbly?

I wouldn't trust them. It's another accident waiting to happen Max. Get your money & all your shopping data/habbits. Loan out your money & then the defaults start pouring in. Who is going to bail them out so customers don't lose everything?

Not sure why you think Supermarket "Banks" are another accident waiting to happen - their lending practices aren't as risque, their interest rates not as competitive from what I can see. They're also less prone to the kind of dubious activities that most banks engaged in - why? Because they can't afford the reputational damage to their main business,namely the sale of groceries.

They simply wont get into the position where they need a bailout is my view...

So what happened to the co-op then - just for clarity's sake?

I think the perception may well be that 'supermarket' banks are completely clear but it is not the case. Supermarket are capitalising on their brand strength and the publics general mistrust of the banking brands. However, once you look behind the branding you will more than likely find a banking institution behind it whether on a jv basis or as processor. On the surface the supermarket bank looks as though it's free from toxicity but it is only as good as the clearer and all institutions are connected in some way to a third party. If a default occurs with a third party it ripples though the whole sector. In 2008 Tesco purchased RBS's 50% stake in Tesco Bank for £950m, it was sold as a buyout for public consumption but in reality it was a bailout for Tesco Bank.