utilitiesplus
- 29 Jul 2003 15:39
Telecomplus was voted 3rd fastest growing company in UK and 11th best share performer for 2002,,not bad for a Network Marketing company..Share price now at 220.50 and next resistance level at 230.00 In september we will have our yearly Express Day where new services will be launched as well as recognition for those exec's whom have contributed in thier efforts to make this company as successful as it is today.
Keep your eye on this thread as i will update as soon as new news is available..
Mark
For anyone whom wonders what T+ do go to this site for more info..
www.telecomplus.org.uk/choc
goldfinger
- 19 Nov 2003 15:38
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Yep, good stuff Mark. Looking for a very bullish report in the morning.
cheers GF.
utilitiesplus
- 20 Nov 2003 09:23
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Morning people,,just cracked the 350 point up at 351 at the minute,,should be an exciting couple of days ahead!!!For you people whom still dont know why we are so succesfull go to the link and save yourself a fortune.
Mark
http://www.telecomplus.org.uk/choc
utilitiesplus
- 20 Nov 2003 13:29
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Sorry guys the results are out on the 28th i found out today..I have just recieved our new VCD which features Paul Daniels as the speaker and offers the services as well as buisiness opportunity,if anyone would like one please e-mail me with your address..
Mark
http://mark@utilitiesplus.info
goldfinger
- 20 Nov 2003 15:21
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Mark, thanks for the clarification, was looking all over for the results.
cheers gf.
wansford
- 21 Nov 2003 01:41
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Hi...This board is not for touting for business.!!
I am also a distributor for T+,but know that this for discussion and advice on the companies etc not a sales pitch.If this was the case the boards would sink below an avalanche of in effect spam.
Yes T+ is a low cost model of operation but the costs get charged somewhere,in fact at the distributors door.
My feeling about share price is that it has reached a level which will only move in relation to any further additional increase in profit.
No I do not hold T+ shares either as options or as a fully paid up shareholder unfortunately.
Regards..Wansford
rampage
- 21 Nov 2003 08:43
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Fair point Wansford,But you do realise Mark, that it could work out expensive Iam a distibutor for T+ so would you send a VCD to me? I doubt it. but how would you know?
Andy
- 21 Nov 2003 08:59
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Wansford,
Agreed, the T+ thread on ADVFN was like that for a while, as was the Kleeneze one, where people were effectively touting for business rather than posting about their views about T+!
I doubled my money on T+, but doubt they can carry on producing these sort of increases. As with other MLM companies before, a degree of saturation will eventually set in, and it's surely only a matter of time before a serious competitior starts up and markets telephony and utilities together?
It's now VERY hard for anyone to declare themselves "the cheapest" in the telecom market, due to a myriad of tariffs.
utilitiesplus
- 21 Nov 2003 10:02
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BLAH BLAH BLAH,, i have been posting on this site for over a year now and i DO NOT pitch every time i post,once in a blue moon maybe such as when new items come along like they have.I am a very succesful ID and yes i would post them out to anyone,why because you have to speculate to accumalate,,this is where most go wrong..No body has ever blasted me on this site as i keep them informed of what is happening from our point of view..So stop whining and go and build your biz!!!
ANDY, i cant believe your post!! ( a degree of saturation will set in?)what rubbish is that,,we only have 1% of the market,you and i will be in a nursing home before that happens! And why do you think no-one else has copied us yet?Because its too damn difficult to copy what we have, we are unique my friend..Someone mentioned the other day about what our CEO has been upto,he has been buying dorment comanies up and guess what they are,,water plus,car plus,insurance plus,card plus,air plus etc etc...Now boys can you see where we are headed??
Mark
goldfinger
- 21 Nov 2003 12:30
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Price up again this morning. Nice and steady. I like it that way,
cheers Gf.
Andy
- 21 Nov 2003 12:58
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U+,
Yes I saw that news the other day.
You miss the point that a lot of people don't WANT to change!
Look at the growth of T+, considering their prices, is not exactly phenominal, is it? It is taking a long time for them to achieve a customer base, and I think you will see a competitor in the market place soon, maybe Tesco?
Please don't go down the personal abuse route when someone doesn't agree with you, debate is preferable surely?
utilitiesplus
- 21 Nov 2003 13:34
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Andy, this is not personal,using referal marketing we were the 3rd fastest growing company in 2002,11th best share performer 2002,these are incredible statistics.Yes the take up is slow and always will be with our method.The company has come a long way in the last 6 years and the bank balance speaks volumes,NO DEBT what so ever,aquisitions payed for in cash!! You will not see many companies that can pull this off especially in our market.
As for a competitor,it will not happen! Tesco wouldnt operate a networking system for a start and without this form of buisiness they could not compete on our level,yes they may aquire more services but on one billing platform,NO.Others have tried outside the energy market such as Virgin to get a national supplying liscense for gas and elec and they have failed..And until these companies go down the T+ route they will NEVER be able to offer ours prices!!!You as an exec should know this!!!
Therefore never mind how much people could save with us whether its 1000 p/a or 200 p/a the fact remains that if a customers brings all thier services to us they will have the best price package on the market barring NONE!!!
Mark
Crocodile
- 23 Nov 2003 17:13
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UP
Your thread has a mention in the SharesMag Mag this week.
Good thread.
D.
Andy
- 23 Nov 2003 18:31
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U+,
I am well aware of the products T+ offer, but they still aren't collecting customers at the rate they might, IMHO, and this MAY be down to consumer resistance to change, and nothing to do with tariffs and cross utility billing.
Tesco and Sainsbury's are now entering the fray, and would be trusted suppliers insofar as people trust their brand names, and yet they too aren't doing that well.
The carphone Warehouse seems to be doing very well, and theirs is a good scheme because they cross sell their mobile customers at the point of sale, and have nearly 50% of T+ customer total in a few months, and a much faster growth rate!
With regard to Tesco, they may not do cross utility billing, but there's nothing to stop them offering cross utility discounts, and referring one to the other! I'm not saying they are going to do it, just that it is a possibility.
I would be careful about claiming that T+ tariffs are guaranted to be the lowest, some of their phone tariffs aren't necessarily!
In truth it's hard to navigate the myriad of deaus being offered by so many6 suppliers, but to make a generic statement "we are the cheapest" is probably not possible, because it depends on so many factors, such as individual useage.
I agree T+ are a good company, and I did very well with them, but see some consolidation at this point, and i expect more competition to emerge!
Andy.
goldfinger
- 24 Nov 2003 00:38
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Results out on friday guys, should give an insight into where the business is going.
cheers GF.
Andy
- 24 Nov 2003 09:14
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GF,
Ok thanks, T+ is a company that I would expect to always improve on the previous ones, so the price should rise this week, IMHO.
goldfinger
- 24 Nov 2003 15:34
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cheers andy, up 13.5p as I post.
cheers Gf.
Andy
- 24 Nov 2003 18:52
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GF,
some rise!
wansford
- 24 Nov 2003 23:29
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HI....My post of last week I feel has put a bit of life into this thread.
Alot of the postings on tjese sites seem to be very much along the lines arent we great or just look its gone up or down so much,but very little of hard info for one to consider to make an objective decision,so a few facts about T+ for you to make an informed investment decision,as follows.
T+,is a virtual utility company,owning no hardware as such in terms of networks,masts ,power stations or the like,being total reliant on its ability to get the best terms,from 02,T+,Opal telecom ,the power generators etc,so no nasty capital plant to renew,depreciate etc.
Its does not advertise at all,all selling costs are born by the distributors.
The distributors pay to join,and get paid when thy sign up a customer and an ongoing basis,as long as the customers stay with T+,ie the residual income.
The distributors are controlled and motivated by the senior distributors,so that the only staff directly employed are the call centre/customer service staff,plus accounting function and IT.
Now you will see that even as there is 10000 dists and 150000 customers,the lack of customers in relation to say carphone/talktalk @350.0k+ is not a big problem,if a dist does not sign up customers its not costing T+ just the dist.
In a way its a very wasteful system but as long as dist base keeps expanding then so does customers.
A sthe costs remain fixed the customer increase goes straight to bottom line,as also T+ has no debt,its a cash cow and will only get the hiccups when business declines.
To counter the argument MLM reaches saturation,even in the market place sinc e advent of carrier pre selection there is the ability to slowly increase market share which is happening.
The dream of financial independence draws people in ,but as can be seen from the figs 10.0k dist 150.0k customers a lot of people are dreaming not living the dream.
Yes there is competition from tesco.carphone uncle tom cobleigh and all but because we at T + work more on recommendation than advertising which I find has nil effect then we will keep gpoing at or near the best value end.
Yes there are companies cheaper on phone calls,mobile and occasionaly on gas and electricity but nobody bills on one bill/platform with as good across the board value,with excellent customer service as back up.
Unfortunately I did not get into shares at beginning of the year and have no intention now with p/e of 50+ and yield of 1.5
I dont know if U+ shares are options,but this is another area in which T + rewards its distributors.
Right the above is info ,not armp for the company and is put on the board to give some constructive reasons for investing only,my only interest is to explain it because as a distributor some waffle,hype and ignorance had been shown about the company.
Trust the above is of benefit to present or future investors.
Wansford
chock
- 25 Nov 2003 13:55
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Hi folks,,my name has now changed to chock from U+ because i couldnt remember my damn password!!!
Wansford,,well put and yes my shares are share options from T+ FREE worth a ortune now but i shall hang on because there is no reason this company cant go 10+ in the future as long as performance keeps up..Results on 28th cant wait..Spoke to a share syndicate guy last night to which i tipped him at 98p per shareand his club is up over 200% and yes they love me!!!
Mark
Known as chock
goldfinger
- 26 Nov 2003 03:23
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Well done Mark, 10 quid a share will do me.
cheers Gf.
ps, chartists please just look at this chart.