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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


stockdog - 12 Jun 2005 17:07 - 5802 of 27111

A big hello to all lurkers and welcome to your support for the kind of thread this used to be.

Sequestor - try to be helpful - like with a bit of substantiation for your reckless remarks. BTW, what on earth leads you to suppose anyone has the majority of his investment in one share - bit of a conclusion to jump to, n'est-ce pas?

Eric, don't want to start a lengthy correspondence on this one (a la Anomalous and Wendy's ding-dong over on NML - streuth! Seq. you might well enjoy that one.), but I was brought up on "Cometh the bone, cometh the dog" - what sort of master are you? Honey may well have a view on this issue - perhaps you could help with her response.

And yes, I once had a marketing system based on punched cards and knitting needles, NOT so long ago. Perhaps, "Cometh the chip, cometh the pin" is more pertinent to Microsoft (or as they say on Corrie - "Cometh the chip, cometh the pan"!).

lol

sd

bhunt1910 - 12 Jun 2005 17:36 - 5803 of 27111

Good gosd - if we are in remonisce mode - I also remember the punch cards as a mainframe programmer on an IBM 360/30. Ther is more memory in my watch than we had in those days with those colossul beasts. I ended my days as Technical Support Manager for one of the big FTSE 100 insraance companies - and the power in those beasts was immemse.

C'est la vie

baza

paulmasterson1 - 12 Jun 2005 17:52 - 5804 of 27111


Driver Hi,

As you are driving(lol!) could you add the full Greenseal history to the research page ?

16 July 2004 Stanelco announce Patents applied for on what will be eventually named 'Greenseal'

17 August 2004 Agreement with Robert Reiser, a deal on Greenseal which was superceded by the ASDA deal

24 September 2004 Grampian Country Food Group to run trials on Greenseal

13 October 2004 Oscar Meyer to run trials on Greenseal

16 November 2004 ASDA to run trials on Greenseal

23 December 2004 First trial for ASDA commences

8 February 2005 Stanelco plc announces update re trials with Asda

Cheers,
PM






driver - 12 Jun 2005 17:54 - 5805 of 27111

baza
blimmy baza your a bit young, what about one of these.


Czerweni_Spectrum_System_1.jpg

driver - 12 Jun 2005 17:56 - 5806 of 27111

pm
I will add that stuff thanks when I got a bit of time.

Sequestor - 12 Jun 2005 17:58 - 5807 of 27111

Stockdog-this is what prompted me- words like `major`, `holdings`,`500k`, seem to suggest that one share is fairly paramount.
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Nealo - 11 Jun'05 - 18:12 - 5787 of 5804

I am a lurker and have read this thread with much interest since January.
I do not post and but I do have over 500k invested in SEO - it is one of my major holdings - but I am not an expert investor.
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Sequestor - 12 Jun 2005 18:01 - 5808 of 27111

I never thgt. that one day superr and I would be in the same camp, or at least in adjacent huts, caution is thrown to the wind when emotion enters into share dealing/trading or even holding.

stockdog - 12 Jun 2005 18:01 - 5809 of 27111

Is fairly paramount a bit like slightly unique?

zscrooge - 12 Jun 2005 18:07 - 5810 of 27111

half a million quid and not an expert? What a gambler!

paulmasterson1 - 12 Jun 2005 18:08 - 5811 of 27111


Hi All,

IMVHO, ASDA will take Starpol 2000 as soon as Biotec is part of the Stanelco group.

Also IMVHO, ASDA will then tell suppliers to get converted to both ASAP, so that ASDA can have at least 6 months to advertise the new biodegradable, better sealed, lower cost packaging, and try to race ahead of Tesco, before the Exclusivity expires next May.

Tesco and all the other grocers, could get their suppliers to order Greenseal with Starpol 2000, anytime before ASDA's exclusivity expires next May, and Stanelco could have a nice queue built up, of thousands of machines to convert starting next May. Stanelco could also prepare the machines, manufacture the heads and power supplies, ready to do a fast track rollout.

Then watch the S.P ....

Andy, I see you will sell some shares next year, but I would wait until a few weeks after the exclusivity expires before doing so. You may not have to sell quite as many for your trip to Aus that way :)

Cheers,

PM

Sequestor - 12 Jun 2005 18:08 - 5812 of 27111

I was referring to one poster, however I doubt if he is unique % wise in having one " pet" share in the majority- that is a bit like--

"Majority

greater in number or size or amount; "a major portion (a majority)"

"He who dares too much usually loses"

William Hill.

paulmasterson1 - 12 Jun 2005 18:59 - 5813 of 27111


Hi All,

I would not take much notice of IC, they never seem to get it right anyway, and when I first started work at the Stockbrokers, I picked up a copy of IC, and as I did so I was told by the head of research, "don't buy anything they recommend or you will lose money"

Nuff said ....

Cheers,,
PM

paulmasterson1 - 12 Jun 2005 19:00 - 5814 of 27111


Hi All,

I guess 'soon' would be a good time for ASDA to tell the world of their plans for Greenseal and Starpol 2000 ....

Asda prices 'still the cheapest'
11 June 2005

Asda retains its crown as the UK's cheapest supermarket ahead of rival Tesco, according to new research.

The chain came out top in trade magazine The Grocer's annual report based on the cost of household items bought at each of the major stores.

Overall, goods bought at all supermarkets are 0.5% lower than when the survey was first launched eight years ago.

A basket of 33 products bought by The Grocer's mystery shoppers cost an average of 37.30 compared with a 37.50 price tag for virtually the same items bought in 1997.

The Grocer 33 survey was carried out weekly over the past year. The shopping basket's contents were changed 10 times during that period, with Asda coming out cheapest for eight of those 10.

This was backed up by an additional weekly comparison of 100 mystery products which was launched in July.

Asda again came out cheapest at an average 167.60 per basket compared with Tesco at 170.64, Morrisons at 174.23, Sainsbury's at 177.91, Somerfield at 189.14 and Waitrose at 192.14.

But the basket of 100 goods is more expensive now than it was last July at each of the stores except Sainsbury's, where the price has dropped by 2.5%, according to The Grocer.

Andy Bond, president of Asda, said he was "thrilled" the store had been named cheapest for the eighth year running.

He said: "As the only holder of the title, there's no better proof that Asda's commitment to Britain's lowest prices is unshakeable."

Cheers,
PM

paulmasterson1 - 12 Jun 2005 19:02 - 5815 of 27111


Hi All,

Will Biotec belong to Stanelco next week ?

I think so, because all major shareholders will have given their blessing ASAP, and small P.I votes won't be needed.

It could even be announced Monday.

Cheers,
PM

Sequestor - 12 Jun 2005 19:26 - 5816 of 27111

paulmasterson1 - 12 Jun'05 - 19:02 - 5814 of 5814 (Filtered)

groaaaann , more BS, forgot to re-filter this loony-no wonder AFN banned him,
even Corrie looks good now.

byeee!!!!

zscrooge - 12 Jun 2005 19:27 - 5817 of 27111

that's it then - piling in first thing - Asda's basket is 3.04 cheaper....

driver - 12 Jun 2005 20:16 - 5818 of 27111

seq Re: "He who dares too much usually loses.

Did you mean Damon Hill instead of William Hill it does fit better.

andysmith - 12 Jun 2005 20:54 - 5819 of 27111

Cyril, to answer your question about enthusiasm, those who have been fortunate enough to see it in action and the benefits it yields are enthusiastic. Alas, no longer anything to do with meat packaging I have not seen it myself but in a small world I have contacts who have.
I am not concerned if the sp re-traces back to placement price, nothing will have changed with SEO other than the fact that they have raised 9m to fund their further expansion into the world of packaging. That says it all.
This would not have been possible last year but the management have turned this company around and now have commercial opportunties in more than one area to significantly change packaging. Lower Costs/Reduced Energy/Reduced waste/Recyclable/Bio-degradable. 5 very important boxes ticked and covered by Stanelco. If these were 5 oil exploration areas or gold mines folk would be very excited, not bashing (or maybe they would!!!!), but what makes it better IMO is that these products are already here and it just needs the management of SEO to commercialise them properly and they will become a very profitable company in the next 2-5years. Of course there are risks, but IMO potential out-weighs the risks.

niceonecyril - 12 Jun 2005 21:07 - 5820 of 27111

Andy thank you for your answer, i'm also very positive towards SEO and its
products. I asked the question due to reading from a another board of a
graduate (in packageing )who was raving about tray lidding and was convinced, it
was the way forward.
cyril

EWRobson - 12 Jun 2005 21:36 - 5821 of 27111

sequestor: felt, like sd, you were a bit quick on the draw with nealo. His statement was that SEO was "one of my major holdings". That, to me, means that there are other major holdings; my conclusion is that he is not therefore overweight in SEO in relation to his total investments (as I am, but at much lower levels - lol!). Suspect it was the 500K which you felt was too much. How many investors are there in SEO? Lets say 5000. Then 1000 of these hold 600 mill shares between them. an average of 600K shares or 125K (80/20 rule). nealo may not even be in the top 100 of holders. The significance of an investment relates to his total holding and how important it is to him. If nealo says he is not an expert then it is not a matter of life and death whether the share is successful.

I also didn't understand why you objected to PM's post re the acquisition of Biotech. I felt he added to my understanding of the reason for the acquisition; filled out the explanation of 'turnkey'.

Now as for sd! 'Cometh the chip' is allied to 'cometh the old block' which in turn relates to 'cometh the greedy hound, stealing the chips out of the pan'. Is nothing sacrosanct?

There appears to be a bit of nervousness about the SEO sp tomorrow. I would expect an early mark-down by the MMs in case there is a rush to cash in the new shares (given no RNS). But my view is that KMC Peel Hunt are a mature outfit who will not have placed the shares with investors who are going to rush to make a quick profit; they would prefer an orderly market for the benefit of those taking them as an investment. I think we will see sideways trading until the final trial is complete and a US seal is announced; that I see as the TA view of the chart; also on aany significant dip the page is filled with blue in minutes as those waiting to top up take advantage.

Eric
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