Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

apart from MrT who hates all immigrants regardless of their nationality, i suspect that most of us are a bit like me

that is to say, we really quite like the poles as the great majority of them come over and work very hard indeed to make something of themselves ...... at the other end of the scale, we have the croatians, romanians and their, whom we regard as innate criminals or scroungers at best

if it is legally possible to refuse benefits in the way outlined by DC last night, then that will certainly help sort the wheat from the chaff, but i suspect it will be shown to be much harder to implement that to debate

zero hour contracts
i thought the question was answered very sensibly ..... neither DC nor EM nor JP could live on zero hour contracts, but it does not mean that they should be outlawed as they have their legitimate use when properly applied

cynic missing the point , we can't take 300 000 per year ! this country is stuffed .

Here comes some more Fred , will you take them in ,can they live with you .

Nice bus.

JB,

Were you driving the bus or just another passenger?

Budget debate exposes Osborne’s boasts as lies – Michael Meacher MP
26
Thursday
Mar 2015

The truth finally came out, writes Michael Meacher.

Osborne claimed that the deficit was being cut this year when in fact that is only due to the exceptional delaying of tax payments till the end of the fiscal year by the super-rich in order to take advantage of the reduction in the top income tax rate to 45%. Without that, which will never be repeated, the deficit would have risen this year, as on present policies it will rise in future years.

He promised “the biggest increase in real spending for a decade in 2019-20″, but that’s only because of a boom-bust roller coaster after massive spending cuts in 2016-18, which any Whitehall mandarin will tell him is a crazy, not to say utterly irresponsible, way to manage public services.

He claimed that the national debt would begin to fall in 2019-20, but that is only because he’s planning to pocket the £20bn windfall from selling off the proceeds from the bank privatisations, not because the fundamentals of debt inflation have in any way improved.

He complimented himself on a nationwide recovery spread across the whole country. The truth is that London and the South-#East continue to pull away from the rest of the country, and manufacturing and construction are still lagging badly behind the finance sector.

He claimed that Britain stood tall and was now beginning to pay its way in the world. The truth is the precise opposite. The OBR is predicting that in 2014 Britain had its biggest current account deficit since 1845, nearly 200 years ago.

He claimed that with rising real wages – albeit by only a fraction and only because the slump in the oil price, prosperity was now returning to British households. The truth is, average real wages are still nearly 8% below their pre-crash levels while at the top, inequality marches on relentlessly. The ratio between the average FTSE chief executive’s remuneration and median pay in those same companies is now more that 140:1, and according to the Sunday Times Rich List the richest 1,000 people in the UK have actually doubled their wealth in the last 5 years from a staggering £250bn to a scarcely imaginable £500bn!

The conclusion from all this is unavoidable: The real fundamental problems of the economy have not been redressed at all.

I'm the one in the middle ,TANKERS the one on the left trying to set light to it !!

jimmy . I have gone to 5 hospitals in the last 2 months to visit a/e yes its full of immigrants they no by going to a/e they get treated sooner those that go to the doctors takes months .
a/e should be closed to all non british people but alas we have gutless no balls cowards in the gov

so should we all join the immigrants and go to a/e
Cameron will not reply to see issue

put on a bus in france then fill it with the scum lock the doors drive them to Syria then open the doors

A very low point last night was when Paxman asked Miliband if the UK is full. He just refused to answer. Paxman then asked him if 70m, 80m, 90m or 100m would be full. He replied that he would not talk numbers.

Paxo should have asked dave....I'm sure he would have got a straight answer.

Conservatives lead at 2

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 26th March - Con 36%, Lab 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%;

I was at Calais a few years ago and witnessed illegals trying to break open lorries (or about to try) with scaffolding poles.....mentioned this to british customs....just laughed and said that they knew them by their first names !....and that later "LATER" they would call the gendarmes.....I mean why bother ....just let Britain be invaded....really.....

I saw that Haystack and no he wouldn't answer because probably like Blair he doesn't give a dam . Labour jumped on the immigration bandwagon when UKIP started getting some press.

Tory wingers alert!... What a bunch of miserable gits some of you are.

if Cameron said he would stop all illegal immigrants and kick them out and would stop all benefits and services for migrants they would have a landslide victory
but he will not . so is it worth voting that is the view in my club and the pub

Ukip's angry, left-behind voters are not going away

Nigel Farage draws his support from financially struggling white people who have completely lost faith in the political system. They're anxious about the future, angry about inequality, and they will still be here after May 7






By Matthew Goodwin

12:13PM GMT 26 Mar 2015





Ukip has achieved remarkable things. Last year, at the European Parliament elections, Nigel Farage and his party became the first new movement to win a nationwide election for almost one hundred years, taking more than twenty seats in the European Parliament. It has more than three hundred local councillors and for much of the past year has been averaging around 15 per cent in the opinion polls — ahead of the Liberal Democrats.


Now, Farage and his party face the ultimate test — trying to win a handful of seats in the House of Commons. The results, and their broader impact, will tell us a lot about the power of this revolt but even if Ukip fail to live up to expectations there are good reasons to expect that its underlying support will remain firmly in place.



Ukip is not benefitting simply from things that have happened since 2010; its rise is a symptom of deep social and value divides in Britain. At a recent debate in Westminster the columnist Matthew Parris said that he had never before seen such a consensus in British politics — that when you boil down the arguments of the main parties there is actually little disagreement about the big questions. There is in modern Britain, he said, no big clash.


But what Parris and others overlook is that there is a big clash in our society, and it is over values. This is reflected in new research released today by the British Social Attitudes survey which tells a story consistent with that presented by myself and Rob Ford in Revolt on the Right. It paints a picture of a group of voters who feel economically left behind, politically cut adrift from Westminster, and intensely anxious about the direction of Britain.



More with graphs etc: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11496607/Ukips-angry-left-behind-voters-are-not-going-away.html

Stan,

Some seem like BNP rejects!

http://news.sky.com/story/1453534/belongings-seized-as-cops-search-co-pilots-home

German media has also reported that Lubitz received treatment for a "serious depressive episode" six years ago during his training to become a pilot.

Der Spiegel reported that investigators searching the apartment in Dusseldorf had found evidence that Lubitz was mentally ill. It was unclear what that evidence was.