Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred.

Where do you get the nasty party tag from?


I'll let you into a great truth.


None of the party leaders would cross the road to piss on you if you were on fire, none of them!

ANDREW WHITAKER
12:22Monday 30 March 2015
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GORDON Brown has accused the SNP of being “willing accomplices of Tory austerity”, as he hit back at the nationalists at the start of Labour’s election campaign in Scotland today.

Mr Brown launched a dramatic pledge by Scottish Labour to spend an additional £800 million in Scotland on the NHS, in an attempt to reclaim the social justice mantle from the SNP.

The former prime minister said the election “not only about constitutional change”, as he set out a pledge from Scottish Labour to tackle youth unemployment and poverty.


In what he has dubbed “the social justice election”, Mr Brown said when Scots look at which is the best party to tackle inequality they would see that Labour is the party of social justice and fairness.

Mr Brown, speaking in Glasgow, revealed Treasury documents, which he said showed the SNP government has accepted Tory plans for “zero additional spending” to tackle austerity over the next year.

Mr Brown said: “This election is not only about constitutional change but about the social changes and the economic changes that are urgently needed to start the day after the election – the desperate need to create more jobs, improve the NHS, tackle the scandal of poverty in our midst and reduce inequality now.

“In the coming year, the Tories and the SNP have exactly the same policy. At a time when the need is urgent and action to end Tory austerity is required now – and despite all the SNP promises - they will both - Tories and SNP together - do absolutely nothing more.

“Far from being the fearless defenders of Scotland, these documents reveal the nationalists as the willing accomplices of Tory austerity.”


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Has anyone (including Brown) actually seen these "Treasury documents" he refers to, or are we expected just to take his word for it that they exist?

Did he explain exactly how he has obtained any such documents from the Treasury and should we be concerned regarding the security in that establishment?


I see another enormous round of cuts to the Armed Forces will take place AFTER the election, bringing the total down near an astonishing 50,000.

This brings them into line with the other European Lands who are preparing to form a "Euro Army". The Germans and French have already begun amalgamating units.

Why is the Scottish media so quiet on the matter?

What will the Scottish unionists make of it?

Will they expect their Labour heroes to object? I suppose they will have to wait until London HQ tells them what they are supposed think of it.


Has the Scotsman forgotten just how discredited Gordon "Bigot" Brown is?

This imbecile brought the British economy to it's knees.

The first thing he did was sell off our Gold reserves, costing the country Billions, while destablising the Gold market at the same time.

As for a labour "Pledge", even the most cringing of forelock tugging Scottish unionists don't take that seriously, do they ?


We've heard it all before Gordon. Your party had the opportunity to bring "social justice" to the country but your greed got the better of you.

YOU sold our gold reserves below market value. YOU presided over the Bank collapse and merger fiasco.

Stop treating us with contempt.


Word is that Scottish Labour have given up and are concentrating on saving their "safest" seats.

So, Mother was right. People who tell lies get found out eventually.


Another sermon from "No more boom and bust" Brown

Nor would you, if you knew what I look like.

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Theresa May described the tories as the Nasty Party some years ago.

I think it was at a party rally and it didn't go down well with some at the time!

Ask the waiter!

Good advice , when you feel the urge to comment on Fred's postings or the paid morons on the ADVFN bb

George Bernard Shaw's advice. The playwright, journalist and founder of the London School of Economics once said:

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

That's very funny!

I think Dodgy Dave needs a podium to hide.

Watching or hearing twisting when interviewed is becoming a joke figure.

Even heard some teenagers saying to one another they were doing a Cameron.

He is a disgrace to politics.

i have come to the conclusion that this pre-election nonsense is rather like one of those japanese "pain" shows that were occasionally shown in clips on tv a few years ago - the winner, or arguably the loser, is the one who can stand the pain of watching and hearing it all the longest

as we know, ALL politicians lie through their back teeth with grandiose promises of this and that ..... whoever then gets into power, will then apologise for being unable to deliver because the last lot left such a dreadful mess - or in the case of labour, no money whatsoever in the till

Fred is obviously worried that the Tories will be returned with an outright majority, why else would he continue to slate the Tories as opposed to putting Labour's strong points (ha! ha! if they had any) to the fore.
2517

Fred's very confused he wants to welcome the rest of Eastern Europe to the UK .
I think we only have about half of them at the moment .

any person under the age of 25 voting lab are voting to be the xmas turkey
they will never get a job with any value

MrT - an extract from what i posted elsewhere ....

the complaint from many that these immigrants steal jobs, just does not stand up to scrutiny
yes, they may indeed be prepared to work for a bare minimum wage, but how many of our youth and others would be prepared to take those jobs- and at those rates?
clearly not many, so do they really have a right to complain that someone else will?

it's a bit out of context for i thoroughly agree that it is quite preposterous that we allow so many immigrants without control, but your thoughts on the above would be interesting

2517,

In May, I think the chances of Cameron and the tories winning an outright majority, is minimal. Also, the chances of Cameron being able to form a government with a workable majority, is extremely small.

If you haven’t realised already the majority of other parties needed to enable him to do so, seem to detest him and his practised “ideology”.

What I am getting fed up is Cameron and Osborne's “barrow boy” spiel with repetition of “mantras” which is then repeated by some tories and camp followers collected around him.

It remind me of the spiel of “barrow boys” at a Saturday market, before they were run of the sites. The punters who bought their packages aware of the fraudulent "sales pitch" when they got home.

Here to-day, gone to-morrow politicians.


I am fed up with their repetition of distorted figures and sometimes, what appear to me, to be downright lies with the expectations that their more gullible followers, will swallow them and repeat for others to do likewise.
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JB.

Your mind reading abilities impress more and me more, especially, when it comes to knowing what I think about immigration and what I welcome.

Thanks Fred .

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 30th March -

Con 35%, Lab 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 12%, GRN 5%;

It is interesting that both the Conservatives and Labour have risen. The other parties, especially UKIP and Greens are falling and the voters are reverting to type. The tribal loyalties are strong enough that it will still be a three way fight as usual.

i have come to the conclusion that this pre-election nonsense is rather like one of those japanese "pain" shows that were occasionally shown in clips on tv a few years ago - the winner, or arguably the loser, is the one who can stand the pain of watching and hearing it all the longest

as we know, ALL politicians lie through their back teeth with grandiose promises of this and that ..... whoever then gets into power, will then apologise for being unable to deliver because the last lot left such a dreadful mess - or in the case of labour, no money whatsoever in the till

When does a tory lie about a subject become a guess!

When does a tory lie about a subject become a guess?

Funny how the tories are so desperate that Snapps keeps his position!

Labour rebuffs SNP’s higher minimum wage demand

DAVID MADDOX
17:20Monday 30 March 2015
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ED Miliband’s office has dismissed the SNP’s demand to have a higher minimum wage as part of a deal with Labour as “Westminster games” and said he will “not negotiate” on any issue.

The comments were a response to the SNP’s list of demands which included a minimum wage of £8.70 by 2020, outdoing the Labour pledge of £8.

But it came as Labour peer Baroness Prosser has urged her party to say it is willing to deal with the Nationalists “on a pragmatic basis”.


On the Politics Show, she pointed out: “Over the last five years, we have worked in the House of Lords to get a majority for things we want with whoever would work with us .

“So on an issue-by-issue basis I am pretty certain that is likely to happen.”

Pressed on whether agreements could be reached with the SNP on an issue-by-issue basis, she added: “Well, I think that is just how pragmatic politics works.”

The continued speculation over a Labour/SNP deal saw Tory London mayor Boris Johnson warn that a Labour government would be the dog “wagged by a Scottish SNP tail”.

He wrote: “The Scots Nats want to end and reverse all benefit reforms, even though these are supported by the New Labour faction in Miliband’s party, and by the overwhelming majority of the British public.



“The SNP positively drool about the swingeing new taxes they could impose on the English, especially in London and the South East. They also want to scrap Trident – in defiance of most experienced and serious Labour MPs.”

In what might be music to SNP ears, he predicted five years of socialism if the Nationalists hold the balance of power.

And he warned that Labour and the SNP “are locked in a deadly embrace, and the risk is that they will take the rest of us down with them”.

However, during the launch of Labour’s business manifesto in the City of London, a spokesman for Mr Miliband rejected the list of demands made by the SNP for a deal in Westminster, including a more ambitious minimum wage.

Mr Miliband’s spokesman said: “We have set out our own policy with the minimum wage and we are not interested in any negotiations or Westminster games.”

He claimed that the Conservatives “are desperate to focus on what might or might not happen” after the election “because it is the only way they can be the largest party” but “voters will make their choice before”.

He went on: “We are not interested in talking about other parties’ programmes or some sort of Conservative Party invention where we are involved in some kind of negotiation. We are not, full stop.”

However, SNP deputy leader Stewart Hosie insisted Labour would have to deal with his party. He said: “Margaret Prosser’s comments suggest that Labour are planning for an election result in which the SNP will hold the balance of power in the next parliament.

“Left to their own devices, Labour would continue the cuts hitting vulnerable people.”

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