Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

i have come to the conclusion that this pre-election nonsense is rather like one of those japanese "pain" shows that were occasionally shown in clips on tv a few years ago - the winner, or arguably the loser, is the one who can stand the pain of watching and hearing it all the longest

as we know, ALL politicians lie through their back teeth with grandiose promises of this and that ..... whoever then gets into power, will then apologise for being unable to deliver because the last lot left such a dreadful mess - or in the case of labour, no money whatsoever in the till

Fred is obviously worried that the Tories will be returned with an outright majority, why else would he continue to slate the Tories as opposed to putting Labour's strong points (ha! ha! if they had any) to the fore.
2517

Fred's very confused he wants to welcome the rest of Eastern Europe to the UK .
I think we only have about half of them at the moment .

any person under the age of 25 voting lab are voting to be the xmas turkey
they will never get a job with any value

MrT - an extract from what i posted elsewhere ....

the complaint from many that these immigrants steal jobs, just does not stand up to scrutiny
yes, they may indeed be prepared to work for a bare minimum wage, but how many of our youth and others would be prepared to take those jobs- and at those rates?
clearly not many, so do they really have a right to complain that someone else will?

it's a bit out of context for i thoroughly agree that it is quite preposterous that we allow so many immigrants without control, but your thoughts on the above would be interesting

2517,

In May, I think the chances of Cameron and the tories winning an outright majority, is minimal. Also, the chances of Cameron being able to form a government with a workable majority, is extremely small.

If you haven’t realised already the majority of other parties needed to enable him to do so, seem to detest him and his practised “ideology”.

What I am getting fed up is Cameron and Osborne's “barrow boy” spiel with repetition of “mantras” which is then repeated by some tories and camp followers collected around him.

It remind me of the spiel of “barrow boys” at a Saturday market, before they were run of the sites. The punters who bought their packages aware of the fraudulent "sales pitch" when they got home.

Here to-day, gone to-morrow politicians.


I am fed up with their repetition of distorted figures and sometimes, what appear to me, to be downright lies with the expectations that their more gullible followers, will swallow them and repeat for others to do likewise.
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JB.

Your mind reading abilities impress more and me more, especially, when it comes to knowing what I think about immigration and what I welcome.

Thanks Fred .

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 30th March -

Con 35%, Lab 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 12%, GRN 5%;

It is interesting that both the Conservatives and Labour have risen. The other parties, especially UKIP and Greens are falling and the voters are reverting to type. The tribal loyalties are strong enough that it will still be a three way fight as usual.

i have come to the conclusion that this pre-election nonsense is rather like one of those japanese "pain" shows that were occasionally shown in clips on tv a few years ago - the winner, or arguably the loser, is the one who can stand the pain of watching and hearing it all the longest

as we know, ALL politicians lie through their back teeth with grandiose promises of this and that ..... whoever then gets into power, will then apologise for being unable to deliver because the last lot left such a dreadful mess - or in the case of labour, no money whatsoever in the till

When does a tory lie about a subject become a guess!

When does a tory lie about a subject become a guess?

Funny how the tories are so desperate that Snapps keeps his position!

Labour rebuffs SNP’s higher minimum wage demand

DAVID MADDOX
17:20Monday 30 March 2015
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ED Miliband’s office has dismissed the SNP’s demand to have a higher minimum wage as part of a deal with Labour as “Westminster games” and said he will “not negotiate” on any issue.

The comments were a response to the SNP’s list of demands which included a minimum wage of £8.70 by 2020, outdoing the Labour pledge of £8.

But it came as Labour peer Baroness Prosser has urged her party to say it is willing to deal with the Nationalists “on a pragmatic basis”.


On the Politics Show, she pointed out: “Over the last five years, we have worked in the House of Lords to get a majority for things we want with whoever would work with us .

“So on an issue-by-issue basis I am pretty certain that is likely to happen.”

Pressed on whether agreements could be reached with the SNP on an issue-by-issue basis, she added: “Well, I think that is just how pragmatic politics works.”

The continued speculation over a Labour/SNP deal saw Tory London mayor Boris Johnson warn that a Labour government would be the dog “wagged by a Scottish SNP tail”.

He wrote: “The Scots Nats want to end and reverse all benefit reforms, even though these are supported by the New Labour faction in Miliband’s party, and by the overwhelming majority of the British public.



“The SNP positively drool about the swingeing new taxes they could impose on the English, especially in London and the South East. They also want to scrap Trident – in defiance of most experienced and serious Labour MPs.”

In what might be music to SNP ears, he predicted five years of socialism if the Nationalists hold the balance of power.

And he warned that Labour and the SNP “are locked in a deadly embrace, and the risk is that they will take the rest of us down with them”.

However, during the launch of Labour’s business manifesto in the City of London, a spokesman for Mr Miliband rejected the list of demands made by the SNP for a deal in Westminster, including a more ambitious minimum wage.

Mr Miliband’s spokesman said: “We have set out our own policy with the minimum wage and we are not interested in any negotiations or Westminster games.”

He claimed that the Conservatives “are desperate to focus on what might or might not happen” after the election “because it is the only way they can be the largest party” but “voters will make their choice before”.

He went on: “We are not interested in talking about other parties’ programmes or some sort of Conservative Party invention where we are involved in some kind of negotiation. We are not, full stop.”

However, SNP deputy leader Stewart Hosie insisted Labour would have to deal with his party. He said: “Margaret Prosser’s comments suggest that Labour are planning for an election result in which the SNP will hold the balance of power in the next parliament.

“Left to their own devices, Labour would continue the cuts hitting vulnerable people.”

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cynic - 31 Mar 2015 09:48 - 58198 of 58205

MrT - an extract from what i posted elsewhere ....

the complaint from many that these immigrants steal jobs, just does not stand up to scrutiny
yes, they may indeed be prepared to work for a bare minimum wage, but how many of our youth and others would be prepared to take those jobs- and at those rates?
clearly not many, so do they really have a right to complain that someone else will?

it's a bit out of context for i thoroughly agree that it is quite preposterous that we allow so many immigrants without control, but your thoughts on the above would be interesting

cynic you have answered the question your self these low life taking these low paid jobs pay no tax and never will but use all the services housing benefits
no good for the uk resididents who now can not get a doctor op a/e full of the scum
who pay no taxes we do not want them nor need them only the rich who want cheap lab benefit not the uk you got it right and did not even notice what you did

working on farm fields cleaning cars is what most do pay no tax
but claim all the benefits fact

off to Majorca tomorrow for a few days

Max,

I know you will thank me as you see appropriate.

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Nasty Party
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The term Nasty Party was first used in October 2002 by Theresa May, the then Chairman of the Conservative Party, when she said of the Conservative Party of the United Kingdom: "There's a lot we need to do in this party of ours. Our base is too narrow and so, occasionally, are our sympathies. You know what some people call us – the Nasty Party."[1]

The term "Nasty Party" applied to Conservative Party members with traditional conservative stances, which included lacking concern for the poor, being anti-gay and anti-minorities, and pro-business.[2][3] It is a reference to Richmal Crompton's story William and the Nasties from the Just William series.[citation needed]

Many Conservatives felt this tendency was one of the reasons the Conservative Party lost the 1997 and 2001 general elections (before losing a third in 2005, and failing to win a fourth in its own right in 2010), and that the party needed to broaden its traditional base to have a chance of re-election.[4][5]

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Conservatives still seen as too narrow-based, conference told


It seem that so long ago!
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The future tory "matron" or its "future"!



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cynic and yes I have insurance our children could not work in the eu cleaning cars or on farm the insurance for medical cover would make it pointless and be of no benefit
the rich in the uk most not brtish are killing the uk with wanting the cheap lab scum
its time the young took to the streets and proest big time

OOh Fred another Maggie in the making ,just gorgeous .

I think I would avoid your choice in young ladies.

But everybody to their own choice!