Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Could we have UKIP running the country NO !

However i do like Farage he had the guts to be popular and unpopular at the same time and quoted facts that made the others squirm ,he was bang on .Even the sad fact that so many thousands with HIV come here to be treated .

He has it absolutely right about immigration and the new former communist countries that have joined the EU .
We can not keep taking 300 000 new people every year.

Agree 110% jimmy. He had some very strong points.

It's a shame that his party will always attract some of the wrong types because i really like him ..
Why would anyone scream racist ? it is a fact that Britain has an immigration problem never seen before and no way of controlling it ..
As Farage said himself that if he was from one of the poorer former communist states he would come here .

You mean like Lamont, or do you want a list of tory failures.

Perhaps, this will do from your favourite "paper" which reminds me of propaganda sheets of the 3rd Reich in the 30s.

Perhaps, where Bing Crosby gets his ideas.
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Cameron's coalition has been a historic disaster for the Conservative Party

that newly proclaimed Conservative unity on Europe working out for you? Those claiming that the Tory tribe is totally united and that the latest in, out, shake it all about Euro shenanigans are all part of a glorious plan, have gone a bit quiet in the last few hours. Indeed, so united is the parliamentary party that 115 Tories voted for the amendment criticising the Queen's speech for its omission of a referendum. That's the amendment that Cameron's concession of a draft Bill was supposed to quell.
Hourly now, farce is piled upon farce. In an attempt to calm the situation, Nadine Dorries has even declared that she wants to be a joint Tory-Ukip candidate at the election. Some of her colleagues who are most vociferous on the referendum issue agree with her and want the endorsement of Nigel Farage. A few of her colleagues desire a formal alliance. Others – including some of those defending small majorities in marginal seats, who are sick of their colleagues behaviour – have their heads in their hands. They are livid with Dorries and the kamikaze tactics of the ultras. Unity this ain't.
At which point up pops the Prime Minister, in America, to knock back Nadine and declare with a straight face that the Conservative party does not do deals or pacts with other parties. I can see what he is getting at in a narrow sense. He is not for deals before an election. But that distinction will be lost amid the general hubbub and raucous laughter. For David Cameron – he of the big, comprehensive offer to Nick Clegg and of the Downing Street Rose Garden romance – to say that he is against deals really is hilarious.

But here the Cameroon modernisers are boxed in by their own "bonkeroony" (copyright, M Gove) antics. They cannot, reasonably, attack Dorries et al on the question of an electoral pact when just a few years ago some of them were suggesting a pact with another party. When all seemed rosy in the garden, they wanted a formal electoral deal, or partnership, with the Lib Dems and Nick Clegg. Nick Boles even wrote a book about it.

At the time those who questioned the wisdom of this approach – shouldn't the Tories be trying to widen their own support rather than stitching up deals to out-fox the electorate? – were waved aside. This was (that dread phrase) a "new politics". Relax, take your tie off, get with the programme.

In contrast, in 2010 some of us thought the Tories were actually making a mistake in even forming the Coalition Government at all. It was much worse than that, it turns out. The Coalition was an epic error of historic proportions, from the Tories' point of view. The coalition, coupled with questionable party management, opened up a space for Farage to the Right of the Conservatives which he has gladly filled. It fed the dangerous idea among many Tories that Cameron believes in nothing (which is not true) and that he is prepared to do any kind of deal to get power for himself. Meanwhile it shackled the Tories to the Lib Dems and limited Cameron's room for manoeuvre.

A minority government laying out a Budget and then going to the country for a mandate in the autumn of 2010 or spring 2011 was the way to go. Would the country have turned to Ed Miliband and Labour? Nope. And if they did the resulting Labour government would have lasted under ten minutes.

At this stage, so much damage has been done to Tory prospects, that I'm not even sure that breaking the Coalition now would achieve very much. The Conservative crisis has a momentum of its own. The Tories are on a rollercoaster, careering over cliffs and plunging at speed through ravines. They will just have to hang on, see where it takes them and hope for the best.

Conservatives lead at 2

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 2nd April -

Con 37%, Lab 35%, LD 7%, UKIP 12%, GRN 5%;

Conservative hit 37%!!!!

JB,

What type are you?

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Dreams,

You are turning into a night mare.

When it comes to "lies" ask Dodgy Dave about his promises and other utterances.

National debt ?

National deficit?

Productivity?

Tax evasion by his mates?

Declaration of earnings by Snappy and a few others?

Zero hour contracts?

Hours worked by his supposed more doctors and nurses in the NHS. (many are part timers.)

Waiting times between initial Consultant appointments in NHS and delays between investigation, diagnosis and treatment. (Check mortality rates in the system?)

Number of individuals (the most defenceless in society) who have had payments cut, but on appeal reinstated. (Many committing suicide.)

Check the numbers using food banks.

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I won't list the rest.

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Cameron and cronies are lying through there teeth.

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Check defence services numbers and how they are trying to bribe many who recently they have made redundant and now asking to sign on as "part timers".


In the past I had some respect for the tory party and leadership, but the present leadership and camp followers stink.


You wouldn't buy shares in a company with Cameron and Osborne on the board.

You would probably short it!

BAHHH HUMMMBUG RED FRED!!! Millipede was slaughtered last night!!!!!!

LABOUR ARE FINISHED IN SCOTLAND HISTORY, COLD PORRIDGE!! LOL!!!

Sadly fred if you keep putting the rubbish you do on here, you are going to be picked up on it. Think what you like but last nights debate showed a very different picture to what you think. Labour are going to need your 1 vote fred, so you had better get on and vote. :-))

That chart above shows Conservatives pulling away. UKIP is falling as their voters return to type.

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JB,

What type are you?
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What do you mean by that Fred ,is this another insult coming my way ? are going to call me Hitler again because i think Farage spoke a lot of sense ...

The Tory lead will slowly increase as we get closer to the GE, people will look at their performance compare it to Labour's last years and vote for the stability and growth DC's party has engineered from zilch. Without a thriving economy none of the promises made by any party can be kept.
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I fear Labour have made a lot of promises that will not be honoured if they were to be voted in. We can spend once the deficit has vanished for the future generations.

You can see that the average of the polls gives the win to Cameron, Miliband second and the Scottie third.

JB,

I have no need to insult you!

Didn't the Greens do badly as did the Welsh

Australian born Bennett of the greens was pathetic.
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Haze,

Yes Miliband is maturing nicely.

I wonder what his lead will be close of polls on May 7th. Should give him a nice majority and after coupling with SNP should give the needed working majority for 5 years.

I can't see much difference Sturgeon's policies and Miliband's policies, other than on devolution of Scotland which can be put on the back burner for 5 year.

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The chances of lib/dem bolstering a con party coalition is zero and any deal of Cameron doing a deal with Farage will be laughable with Berlusconi Boris looking on.

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Farage in the debate represented the Shakespearean fool sent out to entertain the audience with a smattering of gossip and teasing beliefs.