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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 12:50 - 58440 of 81564

Exec.
"The arithmetic suggests Cameron will still be at Number 10 after the election"


I suggest that Dodgy Dave will twist, turn and try to bribe the lib/dem for a few days, but the tories, their policies and leadership are too toxic for others to support , and then he will scuttle out through the back door.

Of course this does not include the KIPPERS, BNP and Monster Loony party.
It interests me the crudity of smearing that Cameron is endorsing.

It would suggest that Cameron is frightened, and grasping at any straws he can think of.

It strikes me that the public in general is finding that how and what the tories represent more and more distasteful.

Chris Carson - 09 Apr 2015 13:24 - 58441 of 81564

Ed Miliband's non-dom crackdown is 'cataclysmic'
Tax barristers warn 30,000 non-doms could leave Britain under Ed Miliband's plans to abolish tax status

By Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor9:30PM BST 08 Apr 2015
Tens of thousands of entrepreneurs and business leaders will leave Britain because of Labour's "cataclysmic" plans to scrap the "non-dom" tax status, experts have warned.
Leading tax barristers warned that 30,000 of Britain's 115,000 foreign investors could leave Britain in the wake of Ed Miliband's announcement that a Labour government would abolish the tax rules surrounding non-doms.
Mr Miliband claimed that the party will raise "at least" hundreds of millions by abolishing the rules, which he described as "the right thing to do".
But private banks, accountants, financial advisers and even the 'independent expert' who instructed Labour on the policy cast doubt on the Labour leader's assertions.
They pointed to official figures showing that non-doms pay £8.2billion in tax - as much as 10 million low-income workers.
Non-doms in numbers: how 115,000 non-doms pay as much tax as 10 million low-income workers
Ed Miliband's plans to scrap non-dom status explained
The Conservatives said Labour's policy had descended into "chaos" after a video emerged of Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, warning earlier this year that abolishing the non-dom rule would cost Britain money.


David Cameron said: "What we have seen from Labour...is frankly pretty chaotic - on the one hand saying they want of get rid of non-dom status and on the other saying that if they did so it would cost the country money.
"This goes to a bigger issue, which is when you see such confusion over a policy like this are these people really capable or competent of running an economy? I think people will conclude no, they are not."


Labour's latest policy was further undermined when when Jolyon Maugham, a tax barrister who helped Labour develop the policy, admitted that it may result in an "enormous flight" of wealthy taxpayers from Britain.
He said he believed the policy could raise up to £1billion, but admitted that there was a risk of a "negative tax yield".


The Institute for Fiscal Studies, the respected economic forecaster, said that the impact of the policy is so uncertain that it could "raise £1bn or even less than zero".
Under current rules, wealthy foreigners can apply for non-dom status to avoid paying tax on overseas earnings and capital gains. The status can also be inherited, meaning some people can benefit from the status despite being born and brought up in Britain.
The status is thought to be used by Roman Abramovich, the Russian billionaire and owner of Chelsea football club, and Lakshmi Mittal, the steel baron and a former Labour donor.
Labour said it will scrap the rules, giving non-doms already living in Britain a transition period of around two years to "get their affairs in order". Foreigners in the UK will have to pay tax on all their earnings after "two to three years".



jimmy b - 09 Apr 2015 13:52 - 58442 of 81564

Milliband seems to make it up as he goes along ,anything for a vote . Biggest disaster if he gets in ..

cynic - 09 Apr 2015 14:13 - 58443 of 81564

58442 - except that (a) they don't yet have a licence to drill, (b) do they even have the money to drill in the event that they ever a licence (months and months away, if not 1/2/3 years in any case), (c) the notional reserve is nowhere near proven, (d) even the company admits that only between 3 and 15% of any reserves are likely to prove recoverable

tread carefully and good luck to any who have put money on the table

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 14:36 - 58444 of 81564

Will be interesting to see London and S.E turned into an "oil field"!

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I never typed that!

jimmy b - 09 Apr 2015 16:06 - 58445 of 81564

Petrol in Sussex will be 2p a gallon Fred , be like living in Venezuela .

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 16:22 - 58446 of 81564

My home town.

I will nip down there and fill up.

MaxK - 09 Apr 2015 20:41 - 58447 of 81564


09 Apr 2015 | News

TNS Poll: Election race remains tight


London – 9 April – A new poll by TNS UK shows that voter intention figures are as follows:

LAB 33% (+1), CON 30% (-3), LIB DEM 8% (0), UKIP 19% (+3), GREEN 4% (-1), OTHER 7 (0)

Commenting, Dr Michelle Harrison, TNS Head of Political and Social, said “This latest poll points to neither Labour nor the Conservative party securing a decisive bounce after the leadership debate. All the indications are that we continue to face a result where no one party secures an overall majority.

“A loss of trust in traditional institutions combined with major social change – including economic growth without wage inflation – is resulting in a Britain in flux.”



More: http://www.tns-bmrb.co.uk/news/tns-poll-election-race-remains-tight

Haystack - 09 Apr 2015 20:56 - 58448 of 81564

How I stopped worrying and came to love the bomb.

Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 22:10 - 58449 of 81564

Haze.

At this rate UKIP will have more seats than Con artists' party.

The tories are debasing UK politics and the public are reacting accordingly.

Bulling Club bully boys traits showing through and in the public arena.


Fred1new - 09 Apr 2015 22:10 - 58450 of 81564

Haze.

At this rate UKIP will have more seats than Con artists' party.

The tories are debasing UK politics and the public are reacting accordingly.

Bulling Club bully boys traits showing through and in the public arena.


Haystack - 10 Apr 2015 00:20 - 58451 of 81564

After a flurry of polls putting Labour in the lead, the Conservatives have edged ahead of their rivals.

Late on Thursday night new polls were issued which gave the Conservatives a one-point lead.

It followed three polls earlier in the day which each gave Labour leads of six, four and three points respectively.

The latest poll from YouGov placed the Conservatives on 35 per cent (+1), Labour on 34 per cent (-1), Ukip on 12 per cent (-1), the Lib Dems on eight per cent (no change) and the Greens on four per cent (-1).

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2015 08:26 - 58452 of 81564

Haze,

Do you mean these :

TNS have topline figures of CON 30%(-3), LAB 33%(+1), LDEM 8%(nc), UKIP 19%(+3), GRN 4%(-1) (tabs)
Panelbase have figures of CON 31%(-2), LAB 37%(+4), LDEM 8%(+1), UKIP 16%(-1), GRN 4%(-1) (tabs)
Survation have figures of CON 31%(-1), LAB 35%(+2), LDEM 9%(nc), UKIP 15%(-3), GRN 4%(+2) (tabs)

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2015 08:32 - 58453 of 81564

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2015 08:37 - 58454 of 81564

Haze,

As some of Gideon's antecedents seem to be from Eire, is he entitled to be on Non-Dom tax privileges?

If so how many tory, or other MPs utilised this tax avoidance "loop hole"?

MaxK - 10 Apr 2015 08:39 - 58455 of 81564

Didn't millibum pull a stroke with the tax thingy a little while ago?

Fred1new - 10 Apr 2015 08:55 - 58456 of 81564

Max.

In tory lingo he utilised a facility open to all. "Deed of Variance". Don't know details.

But many divest themselves of "wealth" to offspring as they get older.

It is the setting up of privileged "dynasties" which is thought by some problematic,

Especially, when viewing the present political elite of failures in the recent cabinet.

Haystack - 10 Apr 2015 09:06 - 58457 of 81564

Haystack - 10 Apr 2015 09:07 - 58458 of 81564

UKIP and Greens toast

MaxK - 10 Apr 2015 09:11 - 58459 of 81564

Dave's toast, Millibum as well.
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