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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

2517GEORGE - 14 Apr 2015 09:02 - 58576 of 81564

Basically the two Ed's haven't got a clue.
2517

Haystack - 14 Apr 2015 10:25 - 58577 of 81564

The financial crisis caused the deficit that Labour ran in 2002/3?

And grew in 2003/4?

And in 2004/5?

And in 2005/6?

“It was the financial crisis that caused the deficit…” in 2006/7?

And in 2007/8?

Really, Ed?

MaxK - 14 Apr 2015 10:40 - 58578 of 81564

Call me Dave drops the big one....



David Cameron revives right to buy and says Tories are the 'party of working people'

The Conservative leader will declare 'we are the true party of working people' as he revives the right to buy scheme and announces that people earning minimum wage will not pay tax under a Tory government.


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By Peter Dominiczak, Political Editor

10:30PM BST 13 Apr 2015



David Cameron will declare that the Conservatives are “the party of working people” as he revives the right to buy scheme and announces that people earning minimum wage will not pay tax under a Tory government.


Unveiling the Tory manifesto in Wiltshire, the Conservatives will attempt to reach out to working-class voters by outlining the two policies aimed squarely at those on low incomes.


The move will be seen as an attempt to emulate the success of Margaret Thatcher by broadening the party's support base outside of the middle classes.


And it will aim to take advantage of the perception that Labour under Ed Miliband have abandoned their traditional working class heartlands.


Mr Cameron will make an emotional appeal to voters and ask them not to “waste the past five years” by backing Mr Miliband in next month’s election.

The Prime Minister will promise to give voters “security at every stage of your life” by revolutionising the right to buy housing scheme to ensure it applies to housing association tenants.

And he is also expected to unveil a policy to ensure that a person on the minimum wage does not pay income tax.



more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11533924/David-Cameron-revives-right-to-buy-and-says-Tories-are-the-party-of-working-people.html

required field - 14 Apr 2015 10:58 - 58579 of 81564

Just put a bet on DC becoming PM after GE.....risky of course....but good odds....

Fred1new - 14 Apr 2015 10:59 - 58580 of 81564

Post 58580

THIS is tory responsibility with future debt going into the "private pockets".

Haystack - 14 Apr 2015 11:01 - 58581 of 81564

For immediate release

In response to the Conservative manifesto announcement that Right to Buy will be extended to include housing association homes.

Ruth Davison, Director of Policy and External Affairs at the National Housing Federation said,

“We fully support the aspiration of homeownership but extending Right to Buy to housing associations is the wrong solution to our housing crisis…”

Blah blah blah, etcetera.

That would be Ruth Davison who is a member of Islington North constituency Labour Party.

That is one of the most left wing constituencies in the country.

Haystack - 14 Apr 2015 11:02 - 58582 of 81564

Marc Stears, Professor of Political Theory and Fellow of University College, Oxford, is not merely an old university friend of the Labour leader, he is one of Ed’s closest advisers and his chief speech-writer. More importantly he is the co-author of the Labour manifesto.

In 2012 Stears wrote approvingly in the New Statesman about an IPPR report calling on the left to favour letting housing association tenants have a right-to-buy:

The stable patterns of social interaction that are associated with communities of ownership are preconditions for the kind of social reciprocity that the left champions, as well as the more conservative disposition that is more usually commented upon. There is, in other words, a social argument for ownership…

An argument being made by the author of the Labour Party manifesto, for a policy appearing in Conservative Party Manifesto…

Fred1new - 14 Apr 2015 11:03 - 58583 of 81564

RF.

Why don't you double your bet.

Encourage Haze to do the same.

-=-=-=-


Tories "rights to buy their own home", but not the the "free income" to do so!

Laughable.

required field - 14 Apr 2015 11:03 - 58584 of 81564

I reckon that UKIP will side with the Tories.....and with the referendum (which I'm not too happy with) and deals on immigration (which I would be happy with) will entice Farages lot; so the maths could be : DC + NF > EM + others.....

Fred1new - 14 Apr 2015 11:08 - 58585 of 81564

RF.

The values of the KIPPERS are the same as the present tories.

They would be a perfect fit!



MaxK - 14 Apr 2015 11:21 - 58586 of 81564

If Call Me did a credible deal with the kippers, he would be home and dry.

But he wont, cos his bosses in Brussels wont let him.



Meanwhile, the great white waits in the wings.

required field - 14 Apr 2015 11:25 - 58587 of 81564

Are we talking English here ?....not sure if I comprendo.....

Haystack - 14 Apr 2015 11:29 - 58588 of 81564

UKIP aren't going to get enough seats to support any party. They will be lucky to keep the two they have already. Clacton will probably stay UKIP as they are pretty bigotted in that area. The other seat could well be lost as his majority was drastically reduced and Garage may not get his seat.

MaxK - 14 Apr 2015 11:30 - 58589 of 81564

Great white = Boris

MaxK - 14 Apr 2015 11:31 - 58590 of 81564

It's not the seats they get Haystack, it's the seats they will deny to others.

All sides!

required field - 14 Apr 2015 11:34 - 58591 of 81564

You're right.....but you never know UKIP might surprise a few...still think that DC will just scrape home.....somehow....DC+LD+UKIP+a few others > EM + others....

Fred1new - 14 Apr 2015 11:39 - 58592 of 81564

.

Fred1new - 14 Apr 2015 11:39 - 58593 of 81564

Dodgy Dave will not leave the debt to his childrem.

No!

He will have plundered the pot with his mates and buggered off elsewhere.

The commitments he is promising now he has already promised and broken.

Many see him as putrid, brazen, corrupt and lying.

Suitable for the present tory leadership.

He is a disgrace to previous conservatives.






Haystack - 14 Apr 2015 11:40 - 58594 of 81564

The effect that UKIP will have on other parties is important, but it won't put them in a position to support any party after the election. As the election approaches, I think that many UKIP voters will revert to their previous party support. They will see that voting UKIP will be pointless and may get them a government that they don't want. Voting for UKIP could well deny them an EU referendum.

MaxK - 14 Apr 2015 11:44 - 58595 of 81564

They wont get a vote on the €U from any of the main three.

That will be the first promise broken.
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