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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 15 Apr 2015 14:32 - 58656 of 81564

some teams need all the help they can get from whatever seemingly hopeless source for what is probably a hopeless cause

Chris Carson - 15 Apr 2015 14:36 - 58657 of 81564

George Osborne rejects Jim Murphy attack on English income tax
The Chancellor argues that it is "right and fair" that Scottish MPs no longer decide on income tax rates that apply in England after the levy is devolved to Scotland.


By Simon Johnson, Scottish Political Editor1:09PM BST 15 Apr 2015 Comments11 Comments
George Osborne has hit back at Jim Murphy’s outspoken attack on a Tory plan for an English-only rate of income tax by arguing the change is only “right and fair” after control over the levy is devolved to Scotland.
The Chancellor rejected the Scottish Labour leader’s claim that the move represented a “brutal betrayal” that would undermine the Union, claiming instead that it would create “a stronger Scotland within a stronger UK.”
Speaking during a visit to Aberdeenshire, he also rubbished Mr Murphy’s claim that Scottish MPs would no longer be able to vote on UK Budgets under Conservative proposals to deal with English votes for English laws.
The cross-party Smith Commission agreed to devolve a swathe of new tax powers to the Scottish Parliament in the wake of the No vote in last year’s independence referendum, including control over income tax rates and bands.
Mr Murphy launched the incendiary tirade after the Conservative manifesto, published on Tuesday, pledged to give English MPs a veto over financial matters if they affect England only.
But the Tories said his attack was “complete and utter nonsense” and designed to attract attention away from Ed Balls contradicting his claim there was no need for further spending cuts in Scotland.


Mr Osborne said: “If you have a Scottish rate of income tax, a consequence of that is you have an English rate of income tax and I think it's only right and fair that English MPs would then have a decisive say over that.
"Of course the whole budget would be voted on by all the UK MPs, including Scottish MPs, and I think that's a fair arrangement. I think people in Scotland would see it as fair, I also think people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland would see it as fair.
"I think it's about making our union stronger, a stronger United Kingdom, a stronger Scotland within a stronger UK."
But, speaking at a campaign event in Glasgow, Mr Murphy said: "George Osborne is all over the place.
"He signed up to the Smith Agreement, which said explicitly that income tax is a UK tax system, but they have, with their manifesto, ripped up huge tracts of the Smith Agreement and rewritten the entire tax legislation of the United Kingdom.
"Now they are desperately trying to backtrack and justify a colossal mistake. They are just plain and downright wrong."
He said the Tories were proposing the design of "an entire new tax concept, without compensation", and "out of the political blue" in order to "chase down Ukip votes".
Mr Osborne also said he was “very much in favour of” a Scottish rate of income tax and insisted the Tories had plenty to offer voters north of the Border.
Their plan to extend social housing tenants’ right to buy their homes does not apply in Scotland because the privilege has been abolished by the SNP government at Holyrood.
But, speaking ahead of Ruth Davidson and David Cameron unveiling the party’s Scottish manifesto on Thursday, Mr Osborne said voters should consider who had the best economic plan for the entire UK.


The Chancellor said the Tories are the only alternative Government to a “cabal” between the SNP and Labour that would lead to higher taxes and a weaker economy.
Mr Osborne was campaigning in West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, a Liberal Democrat-held seat that is one of the Conservatives’ top Scottish targets. He insisted the Lib Dem vote had collapsed and it is a “two-horse race” between his party and the SNP.
Sir Robert Smith, the incumbent Lib Dem MP, said: "This is desperate stuff from a Conservative Party who have not won an election in the North East since 1992.
"All the Conservatives can do with their campaign is split the No vote, letting the SNP in. Only Liberal Democrats in the North East can stop the SNP."



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It appears that Mr Murphy has suddenly realised the consequences of transferring income tax responsibilities for Scotland to Scotland. I daresay that the SNP may also start to worry about the direction that this taking Scotland. In essence, it could mean (if all tax responsibilities are transferred) that the Scots will have to pay for everything they spend out of their own pockets. Now there's a thing!


The increasingly desperate Jim Murphy tries to portray himself as the defender of Scotland with the latest anti-English outburst from the supposed champion of the Union.

For all his faux outrage at Osborne, in effectively ruling out any deal with the SNP, Murphy would precipitate EVEL more rapidly than the Tory proposal. A Labour minority government without any SNP support effectively turns Westminster into a dual function UK and English parliament in a quasi-federal mess.

Labour would find themselves in government but unable to govern England. The SNP have no interest in voting on English only issues (except when Scotland is compromised). For English laws, English (Tory majority) votes would carry the day. Disputes between the budget-setting Labour government and parliament would be akin to US budget disputes.

The fixed term parliament rule means Labour would need to vote with the Tories to bring themselves down and face a new election. Labour would be brave to take the risk as there is nothing to suggest such an election would result in a diminished SNP cadre of MPs. The only two results would be a Tory majority or the same mess again.

Those that supported Independence have no problems with English MPs voting on English issues. Those that supported the Union now find themselves defending the supremacy of a Westminster parliament where they would effectively be second class citizens.


“He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot.”


Did Murphy have permission from his boss Millibland before making any policy statements.

Branch managers don't normally have any say in these things.

Murphy especially, since Millibland and Balls put him on their own favourite form of employment, a Zero Powers Contract.


Murphy screams out his desperate anti-SNP message whilst a desperate Milliband knows he'll need the SNP.

Murphy's wings will be getting clipped again soon.

Chris Carson - 15 Apr 2015 14:45 - 58658 of 81564

Alders off out to play golf, get back to you re ITV. Can you post that question on ITV thread.

cynic - 15 Apr 2015 15:05 - 58659 of 81564

the stop will be computer generated i am sure ..... why don't you just move it to cover that?

aldwickk - 15 Apr 2015 15:19 - 58660 of 81564

Its ok , i called IG

cynic - 15 Apr 2015 15:38 - 58661 of 81564

am i correct?

ExecLine - 15 Apr 2015 18:25 - 58662 of 81564

Just a note from their manifesto about what Labour actually say about 'Zero Hours Contracts":

Labour will ban exploitative zero-hours contracts. Those who work regular hours for more than 12 weeks will have a right to a regular contract. We will abolish the loophole that allows firms to undercut permanent staff by using agency workers on lower pay.

Rather craftily, one could read into this, that they actually intend to do nothing.

The determinant is to do with who, what and how, the term "exploitative" is interpreted.

aldwickk - 15 Apr 2015 18:33 - 58663 of 81564

No , you can adjust the share price by subtracting the amount of the divi , then add a new stop or cancel the stop before the close on the day before the divi and replace a new stop the next morning

Haystack - 15 Apr 2015 18:34 - 58664 of 81564

The problem with the above is that companies will replace people as they come up to the 12 week deadline. That means even less job we vurity.

Fred1new - 15 Apr 2015 18:48 - 58665 of 81564

Be careful Haze if your mother offers to feed you:

MaxK - 15 Apr 2015 20:16 - 58666 of 81564

Fancy a flash electric heater?





£400 quid to you squire...


http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/15/dyson-hot-cool-am09-review-worlds-best-heater-fan

aldwickk - 15 Apr 2015 21:36 - 58667 of 81564

dyson will be reinventing the wheel next

Haystack - 15 Apr 2015 22:34 - 58668 of 81564

How embarrassing!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11540373/Ed-Milibands-US-adviser-David-Axelrod-pays-no-tax-in-Britain.html

Ed Miliband's US adviser David Axelrod pays no tax in Britain

David Axelrod, the former adviser to Barack Obama, tells The Telegraph that he is resident for tax purposes in the US

Ed Miliband's most senior adviser pays no tax on his reported £300,000 earnings in Britain, The Telegraph has learned.

David Axelrod, a former adviser to Barack Obama, admitted that he is not resident for tax purposes in the UK.

Labour confirmed it pays Mr Axelrod in dollars through his consultancy and that he "lives in the US, works in the US and pays taxes in the US".

While it is unclear how much tax Mr Axelrod will pay in the US, the rates of tax for companies are often significantly lower than for individuals.

The admission comes after Ed Miliband put a crackdown foreigners who pay lower rates of tax at the heart of his election manifesto.

Critics said that there is a "moral case" for Mr Axelrod to pay tax on his consultancy fees in the UK even if he does not need to do so under the law.

One Labour MP said: "I don't understand what we are getting for the £300,000, I think it is an obscene amount, I don't think he brings anything to the party. I have heard nothing from him and I don't want to. He's totally invisible."

Haystack - 15 Apr 2015 23:01 - 58669 of 81564

Labour politician Emily Thornberry is under fire for attackbg right to buy, while renting out a property she bought from a housing association.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3040796/Labour-s-queen-hypocrisy-MP-sneered-white-van-man-attacks-Tory-right-buy-plan-thought-bought-1million-housing-association-home-rents-out.html

Labour's queen of hypocrisy: MP who sneered at white van man now attacks Tory right-to-buy plan - even though she bought a £1million housing association home which she rents out

Emily Thornberry has criticised Conservative 'right-to-buy' policy
Family bought housing association property for £572,000 in 2007
Three-storey property in north London now worth almost £1million

MaxK - 15 Apr 2015 23:23 - 58670 of 81564

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Fred1new - 16 Apr 2015 07:45 - 58672 of 81564

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MaxK - 16 Apr 2015 08:58 - 58674 of 81564

MaxK - 16 Apr 2015 09:01 - 58675 of 81564

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