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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 19 Apr 2015 08:43 - 58791 of 81564

perhaps the box should be showing a picture of Sturgeon, for EM would assuredly have his strings operated by her

MaxK - 19 Apr 2015 08:46 - 58792 of 81564

cynic - 19 Apr 2015 08:55 - 58793 of 81564

not convinced Max, but whoever gets into Number 10 is going to have a very difficult time
i think another GE within 6/9 months is short odds indeed

even shorter odds is a highly volatile market which in itself gives opportunity to make (or lose) a lot of money ...... our marxist friend should have problems with his conscience for certainly he doesn't give any profits to charity

MaxK - 19 Apr 2015 09:36 - 58794 of 81564

I suspect it wont the winner of the keys to number 10 who will suffer the most c.

I suspect us tax paying mug punters will be on the wrong end of that shit stick.


However, I will be voting ukip, not in any real expectation of a win, but if enough vote that way, we might send a message to the complacent ones.

The tories got a nasty shock down here in Hampshire with the €uro elections, but little has changed, they still think it is theirs by right.

Fred1new - 19 Apr 2015 09:36 - 58795 of 81564

I suggest you read the below and consider its probabilities and implications.

“From Wicki

Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011

Section 3(1) of the Act originally stated that Parliament should be automatically dissolved 17 working days before a polling day of a general election. This was subsequently amended by the Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 to 25 working days. Section 1 of the Act provides for such polling days to occur on the first Thursday in May of the fifth year after the previous general election, starting with 7 May 2015. The Prime Minister has the power, by order made by Statutory Instrument under section 1(5), to provide that the polling day is to be held up to two months later than that date. Such a Statutory Instrument must be approved by each House of Parliament.

Section 2 of the Act also provides for two ways in which a general election can be held before the end of this five-year period:

• If the House of Commons resolves "That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government", an early general election is held, unless the House of Commons subsequently resolves "That this House has confidence in Her Majesty's Government". This second resolution must be made within fourteen days of the first.

• If the House of Commons, with the support of two-thirds of its total membership (including vacant seats), resolves "That there shall be an early parliamentary general election".

In either of these two cases, the monarch (on the recommendation of the prime minister) appoints the date of the new election by proclamation. Parliament is then dissolved 25 working days before that date.

Apart from the automatic dissolution in anticipation of a general election (whether held early or not), section 3(2) provides that "Parliament cannot otherwise be dissolved".

The act thus removes the traditional royal prerogative to dissolve Parliament.

The Act repealed the Septennial Act 1715 as well as references in other Acts to the royal prerogative of dissolving parliament.”


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I doubt that it would be in the interest of Labour party, SNP or minor parties to have and election before 2020.

Also, using the above the only major differences between these parties is Trident and Devolution can be easily dealt with, by “Free vote” with a subsequent vote of confidence, if necessary.

It would still remain a centre left leaning government wishing to remain members of the EU.

Chris Carson - 19 Apr 2015 10:10 - 58796 of 81564

Never mind all this guff, I will bet my house that the threads PLASTIC SOCIALIST RED FRED when Cameron walks back into Downing Street will do what?


Answer :-


Be first in the queue to buy LLOYD'S shares LOL!!!!!


WHY? Because he is a hypocrite!!

Chris Carson - 19 Apr 2015 10:58 - 58797 of 81564

Election 2015: Tories pledge 'Tell Sid' sale of Lloyds Bank shares
David Cameron and George Osborne promise to sell billions of pounds of Lloyds shares to the public within a year, at a discount of at least 5 per cent, if the Tories win the election on May 7


By Tim Ross, Senior Political Correspondent10:30PM BST 18 Apr 2015
Millions of people will be able to buy shares in Lloyds Bank, under a dramatic Conservative plan to launch a “Tell Sid”-style mass privatisation of the bailed-out banking firm.
David Cameron is promising to order the sale of billions of pounds of Lloyds shares to the public within a year, at a discount of at least 5 per cent, if the Tories win the election on May 7.
A government publicity drive will be launched in the months before the “retail” sale begins, similar to the British Gas sell-off that produced the “Tell Sid” advertising campaign in 1986, to drum up interest in the deal.


The sale is expected to result in at least 200,000 people – and potentially several million – owning shares in Lloyds, and to raise between £2 billion and £3 billion.
• Rewind to 1979: What other Thatcher pledges are in Cameron's manifesto?
Writing for The Telegraph, George Osborne says the sell-off will give more people a stake in our economy" while making sure the £20 billion of taxpayers money that Labour spent to bail out the bank is paid back.
“The share offer will raise billions of pounds, helping taxpayers to get back the money that the last Labour government put in, and reducing the national debt,” Mr Osborne says.
The announcement marks the latest consumer-focused policy from the Tories aimed at convincing voters to give the party another five years in power, as polls shows they remain neck and neck with Labour.
In other developments this weekend, with two and a half weeks left until polling day:
• Nicky Morgan, the Education Secretary, announced a government inquiry into the impact of mass immigration on state schools, telling The Telegraph that primary teachers are under “pressure” as they try to cope with children who do not speak English.
• Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, gives his personal backing to the “outstanding” leadership of Mr Cameron and warns that Labour’s “hostile” tax plans will force businesses to withdraw from Britain.
• A new “poll of polls” for The Telegraph puts the two main parties equal on 34 per cent of the vote. But Labour would win 294 seats to the Conservatives’ 269, according to the analysis from Professor John Curtice, of the University of Strathclyde.
• A separate forecast from ICM for the Telegraph also put Labour and the Tories tied on 32 per cent each. However, it found that Labour supporters are more optimistic than people who backed the Conservatives in 2010 about their party’s prospects next month.
• Alex Salmond, the former Scottish first minister, said there would be “no disgrace” in Ed Miliband making a deal with the SNP to give the Scottish nationalists a say over the “vast majority” of English laws.
• The Tories stepped up their attack on Mr Miliband, releasing a new poster showing the Labour leader as a puppet with the SNP leader, Nicola Sturgeon, pulling the strings.


The last Labour government bailed out Lloyds at the height of the financial crisis, taking a 43 per cent stake and spending £20 billion of taxpayers’ money propping up the stricken institution.
Under the Coalition, £9billion has been raised so far through selling shares in Lloyds Banking Group, but only institutional investors such as pension funds and insurance firms have been able to take part.
• Six charts summing up the agony and the ecstasy of Britain's recovery
Mr Osborne announced last month that he would release a further £9 billion in Lloyd shares by April 2016.
Under the Tory promise of a retail sell-off, individual consumers will be able to buy up to £10,000 each of Lloyds shares, with a minimum investment of £250.
On Friday night, shares in the bank were worth £78.75 each, more than the £73.60 which the Labour government paid during the bail-out.
The Tories said retail customers – who would pay by debit card – would be sold the shares at a discount on the market price of at least 5 per cent.
In an attempt to spread the sale to as many people as possible, priority will be given to those buying less than £1,000 worth of the shares.
Confirming the Lloyds plan, Mr Cameron will say: “The £20 billion bail-out of Lloyds bank by the last Labour government became a symbol of the crisis that engulfed the British economy under Labour. After the public bailed it out, people feared they wouldn't see their money returned. Today they are.”


In his Telegraph article, Mr Osborne says he wants to encourage a culture of longer-term share ownership and will introduce a “loyalty bonus” worth up to £200 for anyone who still owns their Lloyds shares one year after buying them.
“Not only are we getting taxpayers their money back, we are going to do it in a way that gives many more people a stake in our economy and encourages a culture of long term share ownership at the same time,” Mr Osborne says.
“There is no doubt the election is close. But the outcomes could not be further apart.
“The Conservatives are only 23 seats away from a majority government that offers security and stability. A vote for any other party opens the door to an Ed Miliband-Scottish Nationalist Government.
“It is an unholy cabal of those who want to bankrupt our country and those who want to break up our country.”


The announcement came as the Conservatives made a fresh appeal to the party’s core supporters who have switched to the UK Independence Party because they are concerned about rising levels of immigration.
In an interview with The Telegraph, Mrs Morgan disclosed details of a new government inquiry into the impact of immigration on schools.
She said immigration was “a big issue” for voters on the doorstep and pledged action to help schools deal with the demands of teaching children who do not speak English.
The Department for Education has started “mapping” the effects of migration on the shortage of school places across England, as well as the resources that schools need to cope with five year-olds who require intensive language support.
In the interview, Mrs Morgan also said she expected that many undecided voters would not make up their minds until they were inside the polling booths.
ICM’s latest Wisdom Index, which asks 2,000 adults online to predict the share of the vote that each party will receive, continued to forecast a dead heat, with Labour and the Tories on 32 per cent each. Ukip was forecast to win 12 per cent and the Liberal Democrats 14 per cent. Meanwhile, a poll by Opinium Research for the Observer gave the Conservatives a four point lead, on 36 per cent to Labour's 32 per cent.



cynic - 19 Apr 2015 16:53 - 58798 of 81564

and ST gave labour a 3% lead

i confess i'm amazed how muted all you guys have been today - not that i'ld have actually bothered to read much if any of the standard and repetitive polemics from the usual sources .....

perhaps even fred's wife has had enough of his nonsenses and beaten him over the head with a frying pan (preferably well heated) and he is even now, after some 8 hours still waiting in A&E ..... such things are dreams made of :-)

Haystack - 19 Apr 2015 19:53 - 58799 of 81564

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/18/conservatives-four-point-lead-labour-opinium-observer-poll-challengers

Conservatives take four-point lead over Labour in Opinium/Observer poll

Tories unchanged on 36%, Labour fall two points to 32% and Ukip up two points on 13% in poll conducted after Thursday’s ‘challengers’ TV debate

The Conservatives have opened up a four-point lead over Labour with just two and a half weeks to go until the general election, according to the latest Opinium/Observer poll.

The Tories are unchanged on 36% compared with last weekend, while Labour is down two points on 32%. Ukip is up two points on 13% while the Liberal Democrats are up one point on 8%. The Greens are down one point on 5% and and the SNP is unchanged on 4%.

cynic - 19 Apr 2015 19:55 - 58800 of 81564

it depends on how selective you want to be as to which opinion poll results you wish to quote

MaxK - 19 Apr 2015 20:00 - 58801 of 81564

That's the Guardian c, so it must be right!

cynic - 19 Apr 2015 20:16 - 58802 of 81564

except, that as i posted earlier, ST poll put labour 3 points ahead

anyway, well past my bedtime now :-)

MaxK - 19 Apr 2015 20:24 - 58803 of 81564

Details, details c. The Graun is never wrong, ask any lefty.


On another tack, there seems to a reluctance to state who you will vote for...not sure what that signify's, if anything.

But I suspect we could have a few upsets this time out.

Haystack - 19 Apr 2015 22:09 - 58804 of 81564

Just watching the Queen on ITV3. I remember the absurd mass hysteria about Di. Luckily I was in Sicily at the time it all happened. I flew back on the day of the funeral.

Haystack - 19 Apr 2015 22:09 - 58805 of 81564

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Haystack - 19 Apr 2015 22:13 - 58806 of 81564

SNP prepared to paralyse Armed Forces unless Trident is scrapped

Nicola Sturgeon on the Andrew Marr show April 19, 2015

Election 2015: Scottish Nationalists threaten to block defence spending unless they get their way on Trident as Labour admits it is willing to do a deal to get Ed Miliband into No 10

The SNP is prepared to paralyse Britain's armed forces and shut down government departments if Ed Miliband is Prime Minister, the party's deputy leader has suggested as Labour admitted for the first time that it is willing to do a deal with the nationalists.

Stewart Hosie said the SNP will to block defence spending if Mr Miliband refuses to scrap the Trident, raising concerns his party will force a US-style government shutdown.

Senior Conservatives warned that the move would see troops go unpaid, equipment supplies like tanks and body armour delayed and major projects postponed.

While the Conservatives have repeatedly warned of the chaos the SNP would bring to the UK, Mr Hosie's remarks represent the first time his party has suggested it is prepared to use its clout in Westminster to put its own spending priorities ahead of the rest of Britain.

It came as Angela Eagle, the shadow leader of the Commons, confirmed for the first time that Labour is prepared to speak to the SNP after the election to "try and build a majority" and get Mr Miliband into power.

Chris Carson - 19 Apr 2015 22:54 - 58807 of 81564

SNP refuse to rule out 2nd independence referendum




15:49 Sunday 19 April 2015


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NICOLA Sturgeon has said she cannot give Ed Miliband a guarantee that there will not be a second independence referendum during the lifetime of the next parliament because such a decision would be taken by the Scottish people.

The First Minister said she was “not planning” for another vote on independence but she did not have the right to categorically rule one out.

Ms Sturgeon was appearing on BBC1’s Andrew Marr Show when she was questioned about a possible deal between Labour and the SNP after the General Election.





She confirmed she would lead any post-election discussions with the Labour leader.


Asked if she could give Mr Miliband a guarantee of no referendum in return for a Westminster deal, Ms Sturgeon said: “I have made very clear that if you vote SNP in this election, that is not a vote for independence, nor is it a vote for another referendum.

“I’m not planning another referendum. Why do I fall short of categorically ruling it out? Because I don’t think as a single politician I have got a right to do that.

“Whether there is another referendum, and whether Scotland becomes independent is not a matter for me to decide. It is a matter for the Scottish people to decide.”

Ms Sturgeon rejected the view that the SNP would attempt to cause disruption at Westminster to further its goal of independence.




She said the party wanted to work for “progressive change” across the UK.

“I think there are many people in Labour’s ranks, including on their backbenches now, and perhaps in future, who would have the same view as me on many of these issues,” she said.

“There is an opportunity to build progressive alliances for progressive policies. It is a real rather than a pretend alternative to austerity.

“I’ve got to persuade people that the SNP in the House of Commons after the election will not be any kind of disruptive force. We want to be constructive, to get better politics coming out of the Westminster system.



“As long as Scotland remains part of the Westminster system, it matters to people that we get good decisions out of that system, and I want the SNP to play a positive part in improving politics at Westminster for people right across the UK.”



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Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft 47m47 minutes ago
For those who still believe in a Labour overall majority Betfair is at 47/1. Tory overall majority 9/1.



More neverendums will fghk Scotland big time. But I guess SNP will still blame it on the Tories.



The answer to whether or not there will be a 2nd referendum is simple.

If the SNP include a 2nd referendum in their 2016 Holyrood manifest then don't vote for them.

Although then you might have to ask yourself the question which would be worse the Labour Party in power at Holyrood or Scotland having a 2nd referendum?


The wee Scottish labour mouse has turned into the big nasty SNP Lion. Hilarious, way to go Scotland


May 2017
The SNP have been in power for over a year now, and have and are into the first year of the 5-year plan, after a massive majority, in the Scottish elections a year previously.

1) NHS waiting times have been cut to zero
2) Pensions for everybody been have doubled
3) The minimum wage is doubled
4) Scottish oil is declared the best oil in the world
5) A standard rate of 50% tax introduced
6) Free child care for everybody until school age
7) Scotland to become a republic and Salmond elected President for life
8) 'Animal Farm' by George Orwell banned from the school curriculum.


May 2018
1) Scotland bankrupt
2) SNP supporters cry out 'I thought money grew on trees and the social benefits were our god given right'.
3) It's the English fault




Haystack - 19 Apr 2015 23:02 - 58808 of 81564

Ed Miliband's mansion tax will force more than 120,000 homeowners will have to get their properties revalued at a cost of up to £4,800 each, a new analysis has found.

New research by Savills, the estate agents, homeowners will have to spend a total of £110 million valuing their properties or face fines of thousands of pounds.

The estate agent also said that there will be a significant burden on taxpayers as HMRC will have to foot the £65 million cost of disputing any valuations.

It warned that the cost of valuations and disputes is likely to be greater than the amount raised from homes worth between £2 million and £3 million under the levy.

Chris Carson - 19 Apr 2015 23:08 - 58809 of 81564



TOM PETERKIN



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THE SNP’s dominance of the opinion polls will lead people to vote tactically against the Nationalists in No-voting areas, a leading Liberal Democrat claimed yesterday.

Sir Malcolm Bruce claimed voters were beginning to realise that Scotland could find itself outside government if it votes overwhelmingly for the SNP next month.

Although polls suggest a large influx of SNP MPs could hold the balance of power, both the Conservatives and Labour have ruled out a formal coalition with them.





David Cameron has ruled out any kind of deal, whereas Ed Miliband has repeatedly left the door open for SNP support on an informal issue-by-issue basis.


Despite opinion polls Nick Clegg’s Lib Dem party still believes it can win enough seats to do business with the Conservatives or Labour.

Bruce said: “I am meeting people who voted Yes, who are not voting for the SNP and feel it’s maybe gone too far and we should move on. Secondly there wasn’t a uniform vote across Scotland, there were very substantial variations.

“Here we are in the nort-east of Scotland, it was overwhelmingly against independence, certainly well over 60 per cent. Therefore you cannot assume that the SNP will actually get enough votes automa-
tically to hold or win seats in the north-east or other parts of Scotland.

“We are finding that people are voting tactically because if you take these polls all the way through, Scotland could effectively put itself out of reach of being part of any government because we have elected nobody of the governing party, whatever it is. That’s not good for Scotland.”



Bruce is standing down as MP for Gordon, the Lib Dem-held seat that Alex Salmond is now favourite to win for the SNP.

In Cabinet minister Danny Alexander’s seat of Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey, the Lib Dems are writing to Conservative voters in an attempt to keep the SNP out. A Lib Dem letter sent to Conservative-supporting constituents quotes the Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson praising him.

The letter refers to an interview Davidson did on BBC Radio 4’s Today Programme when she said: “Fair play to the Liberal Democrats for stepping up . . . some Liberal Democrats like Danny Alexander did very, very well and I’m thankful to them for that.”

The letter signs off: “Remember the Conservatives cannot win this seat. Only Danny can keep the Nationalists out.”



Last night the Conservative candidate for Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey Edward Mountain said: “I think Desperate Dan is getting more desperate. There doesn’t seem to be much activity from the Labour Party up here, so it looks more and more as if this constituency will be a toss-up between the Conservatives and the Lib Dems over who is going to hold up against the Nationalist vote.’’

Campaigning in Bruce’s old seat with Alex Salmond, Nicola Sturgeon described the SNP as the national party of Scotland. “Polling shows that the SNP has become the national party of Scotland in all senses – leading in the polls across all areas and demographics of Scottish society,” she said. “Distrust in the Westminster establishment parties has grown – the Lib Dems leave a trail of broken promises behind them and Labour and the Tories are signed up to £30 billion spending cuts.”




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Should the Scottish people vote overwhelmingly for the SNP, a party which is anti English no matter what they say, or how much they deny it, it will at last prove to my English colleagues that when the chips are down the Scots will never forgive us for Culloden - William Wallace - Buying up all the Scottish Fish - Buying up all the Scottish Meat - and being responsible for everything that goes wrong in Scotland - according to the Scots (nothing changes)

That said, us English will use the next five years building support for an English National Party (ENP) or Parties, by - simply telling the truth about the SNP over and over again - and we will withdraw from the European Union which, if what the SNP says is true, will "encourage" the Scots to withdraw from the UK, which millions of English also want.

This nonsense about how England would suffer if the Scots left the UK is put about by a few self interest individuals - and the weasel words of some English politicians do not represent the majority of the English voter, so keep the dynamic duo of Sturgeon and Salmond demanding independence and at the next referendum the majority of 55 million English will also demand that you 5.4 million Scots go your own way - with your English neighbours very best wishes.. The sooner that happens the sooner we can slam shut the border so that both countries can go their own independent way. The very thought of that will inspire millions South of the Border (the majority) to assist our friendly northern neighbours (a minority) to "keep right on to the end of the road"



'Sir Malcolm Bruce claimed voters were beginning to realise that Scotland could find itself outside government if it votes overwhelmingly for the SNP next month' - Translated : 'Please don't threaten the Gravy-train' that is Westminster - after all, what is British politics without a little sleaze, corruption and fraud' ??



bit of hypocrisy from Malcolm Bruce here.
"Scotland will put itself out of reach because we have not elected anyone from the governing party"
We have one Scottish Tory MP but still got a Tory government that we haven't voted for in over 50 years. It was Mr Bruce and company that gave us the government we didn't vote for by doing a dirty deal with the Tories. And then he tells us we may find ourselves totally disregarded by London politicians


Tom33, read the papers and see what their policies are. One lot has a long term economic plan that isnae everyone's cup of tea but sees a high growth economy, rising employment and low inflation, and tax decreases, and the other lot will have a similar economic plan but will cut less and tax wages and property more, and we'll probably rub along ok. And the third lot are somewhere in between. And then there's your lot who will plant loads of money trees and invest in failed airports, failed wind companies and fail to bring in one single tax increase or decrease that any impartial observer could say was A their own idea, or B supported social justice. Hope this helps.



Did I really hear Business Sec, Vince Cable, criticise the Tory's over Lloyd's shares sale, saying he wouldn't support selling Lloyd's shares off at a discount, to the disadvantage of the tax payer ? ! ? !

POST OFFICE Vince . . . POST OFFICE ! ! !

Of course he's right about the Tory plan, but boy, did he let the Tax Payer down with the shocking undervaluation of the PO !




Chris Carson - 19 Apr 2015 23:28 - 58810 of 81564

SNP to set out General Election 2015 manifesto




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THE SNP will launch its General Election manifesto this week, setting out its alternative to austerity and positioning the party as a force for UK-wide change.

It is expected to contain proposals for real-terms spending increases of 0.5% a year, and will commit SNP MPs to participate in votes on major issues south of the border which impact on devolved areas in Scotland such as the NHS.

The manifesto will be unveiled tomorrow in Edinburgh with the party aiming to be in a “decisive position to help deliver a bolder programme than Labour on their own are willing to” after the votes are counted.





The document is expected to include a pledge to back Labour’s promise to reduce English tuition fees from £9,000 to £6,000, and a commitment to back new powers for the energy regulator Ofgem.


SNP depute leader Stewart Hosie told the Scotland on Sunday newspaper: “A strong team of SNP MPs at Westminster would support the reduction of tuition fees for students south of the border, giving more young people the chance to go to university.

“Our preference would be no tuition fees in England either, but we will certainly vote for a reduction.”

Mike Weir, the party’s energy spokesman, told the Sunday Mail: “It’s time that Westminster put consumers first and not the energy companies.

“The SNP will campaign for the energy regulator to have the power to control retail prices and force energy companies to pass on cuts to consumers.”




Opinion polls suggest the SNP will win up to 56 of Scotland’s 59 seats at the General Election, and some members of the party believe it has proved its “complete relevance” to a Westminster election for the first time.

Nicola Sturgeon has set out how the SNP’s MPs can build alliances with anti-Tory MPs in Westminster on many issues, such as the NHS.

She said: “The NHS is so vitally precious to us all - and we rely on it to be there for us when we need it. In government, the SNP has shown wholehearted commitment to protecting and improving Scotland’s NHS - and we have made clear that we are prepared to support a Bill at Westminster to restore the National Health Service in England.

“We can end the Tory agenda of cuts, privatisation and patient charging ... threatening the future of the NHS south of the border, which will also protect Scotland’s budget and NHS.



Over the past five years, we have protected Scottish NHS spending from Westminster austerity. A strong team of SNP MPs in a hung parliament at Westminster can go further, proposing increases in health spending across the UK.

“Our proposals for modest public spending increases of 0.5% support an additional £9.5 billion health spending above inflation by 2020/21 - £24 billion in total. This will deliver a total increase for NHS Scotland of £2 billion.

“The SNP will always vote to keep the NHS in public hands, and the opportunity to take action will benefit people across the UK.”

Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy said: “Any party’s manifesto must meet a very basic test of costing their policies. Scottish Labour’s manifesto produced fully costed policies that will bring an end to austerity and make life fairer for working class Scots.

“Now it’s the SNP’s turn. Their key General Election policy is to cut Scotland off from UK-wide taxes, meaning an end to the UK pension and welfare state here.



“Their plans would drop a £40.5 billion bombshell in Scotland’s finances, a bombshell that would only get bigger over time.

“Even people who voted yes will wonder why, having voted to stay in the UK, we would want to cut ourselves off from taxes on wealthy people down south. This is an attempt to win financial independence just months after the Scottish people rejected the idea.”

Liberal Democrat Danny Alexander has called on people to back his party to “keep the economic recovery on track”.

He said full fiscal autonomy would mean a cut of £1 billion to public services in Glasgow alone.

“The SNP’s full fiscal autonomy plans would be felt harshly in Scotland after they cut the ties of pooling and sharing across the UK,” he said.

“Our analysis shows that in Glasgow, local services could face a £1 billion hit to already stretched resources. In the Highlands, this would represent a cut of over £356 million.”


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This will be more of a wish list than actual costed out policies. And they know it.



Kezia Dugdale "I'll not take any lessons from the SNP on economics " John Swinney has balanced Scotland's books for seven consecutive years


The latest Government figures on Scotland's economy contain billions in service charges for activities in the rest of the UK. As pointed out by Douglas Fraser, BBC Scotland Business and Economy Editor, this raises a challenge over measuring Scotland's economy.

Despite claiming to present Scotland's financial position, the Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland figures include higher costs for defence, debt and administrative services that should not apply to Scotland.

The extra costs for services in the rest of the UK make Scotland's finances appear worse than they actually are by billions of pounds every year. In the last 5 years these sectors cost Scotland £35 billion; yet Scotland did not receive or need £35 billion in services.


Well Mr Hosie , how are the negotiations for Nuclear disarmament going with
Russia , Pakistan , and North Korea etc . They have not returned the phone call .
I see , but we are still getting rid of Trident . This saving of a £100 billion , is going to go one , helluva long way ! Maybe wee Nippy and Eck are going to open a Garden center, selling Money Trees.



Well who would have thought that the SNP where going to have the opportunity not only to bring positive change not only to Scotland but, also to the whole of "our United Kindom"!

On May 8th the SNP will confirm the end of the two party system and head South to clear out the Augean stables!



I see that the unionists among us are out tonight!The posts I've read are if a very low quality indeed!I suppose though that constantly getting bad news in the polls does have a psychological effect and reason goes out the window!This of course is exaggerated if you were unable to reason in the first place.


Item 1: Independence;

Item 2: Er ....




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