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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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gazkaz - 04 Aug 2013 01:38 - 589 of 1034

Precious metals expert Andrew Maguire (Who testified at the CFTC metals manipulation hearing)
- talks about ..........the run on the bullion banks......
......happening right now.

http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/episode-477-max-keiser-741/

13 mins in (lasts about 12mins thereafter)

gazkaz - 04 Aug 2013 02:24 - 590 of 1034

Alasdair Macleod discusses:
■The cartel’s shift to attacking the metals pre-emptively prior to the release of the FOMC/NFP reports to prevent break-outs to the upside.
■The implications of the spiking 10 year Treasury bond with over $400 Trillion in interest rate swaps held by the major banks
- would the banks be able to handle a rise in Treasury rates?
■1,300 tons of custodial gold held by the BOE (likely owned by France, Italy, & Spain) likely leased out onto the market over the first half of 2013 were required
- to prevent a systemic financial collapse in the wake of the Cyprus bail-in
- due to collapse of confidence in the banking system throughout Europe.
■While the bullion banks have largely covered their gold & silver short COMEX positions,
- the bullion banks are still stuck .....with a massive short gold position
- on the..... LBMA,
- and a sudden rise in the price of gold could stimulate
- a crisis in ....the physical market in London!


gazkaz - 04 Aug 2013 02:33 - 591 of 1034

Sahara

- some interesting - quotes/references/extracts
- re connecting - some dots etc

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nwo_elf_tyranny.htm

gazkaz - 04 Aug 2013 22:46 - 592 of 1034

Re the biiger picture
- Nothing new under the sun &
- a salutory tale....of what happened...last time

Last time.... a very small man with a very small moustache
- had grand designs....on the world
- The BofE helped rebuild his country after WW I - and he dutifully repaid their investment....right through WW II (discreetly via the BIS)
- The Rockerchappies helped fund him..through the war....via IG Faben...in his quest for the world conquest
- And grandpappy Bush...Father/grandfather to Pres GW I & GW II had his assets confiscated...after WW II for trading with ....the enemy (ie the man with the small moustache)

During this time in history.....the man with the small moustache
- recruited the....clergy

- to pacify...the sheeple
(& it worked well)

With that short lesson in history..... back to ....today

Those nice FEMAle-people in the US....... have just sent out - to 2,600 clergy/pastors

- Instructions on them assiting in ....pacifying....the sheeple !!

First hand account of it - spoken by "A Government...State Legislator"
(Just 10 mins...and includes...more too)







If history doesn't repeat....it commonly..."rhymes"

Will "Partial Jaw" .....ahead - rhyme this time ??



gazkaz - 05 Aug 2013 00:14 - 593 of 1034

Sahara

I think you expressed an interest in this field

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s4ga9FCHSKc

Dr Brian O'Leary
(Former astronaut & Physics Professor at Princeton)
- conveys a lot in - 60 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i2Abuj53Y6E

10 mins

Saturn6 - 05 Aug 2013 10:32 - 594 of 1034

Cheers Gaz - Have seen some before but worth seeing again.

Tesla had managed to acquire endless free energy from within the earth 100 odd years ago, and with a simple machine the size of a loaf of bread, every household could tap into this supply of free energy for nothing more than the cost of the low priced machine. But obviously this would have deprived the oil barons of their vast income so had to be swept from public view.

(Tesla discovered the earth was like a dynamo and therefore he could produce an abundance of free energy from the heat generated. Along with 'radiant energy' machines)...

http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/generator.htm

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Saturn6 - 05 Aug 2013 10:49 - 595 of 1034

Miners drifted down and tagged a support line. Which is also in the vicinity of the Fib cluster...

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I was away early friday so may have to take on heges today if we continue lower.

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Saturn6 - 05 Aug 2013 11:00 - 596 of 1034

Notice miners may want to form a skewed 'H&S' pattern which would mean a drop to the lower red line and a back-test of the black breakout line?/.

Alternatively we get a bounce from the Mid Bollinger Band which is the 20/DMA...

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Saturn6 - 05 Aug 2013 11:22 - 597 of 1034

Miners 'Bear Flag' Objective...

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Saturn6 - 05 Aug 2013 11:26 - 598 of 1034

A 7% down week...

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gazkaz - 05 Aug 2013 21:23 - 599 of 1034

The Federal Reserve should reverse a decade-old ruling
- that lets banks trade physical commodities, Commodity Futures Trading
- Commission member Bart Chilton said.

“I don’t want a bank owning
- an electric service, or cotton, corn or feedlots,” Chilton, a Democrat, said in remarks prepared for delivery today at a conference of U.S. cotton growers in Lake Tahoe, California.

“I don’t want banks owning warehouses, whether they have aluminum,
- gold, silver
- or anything else in them.”
The Fed “can and should reverse” the policy, he said.

Banks including Citigroup Inc. (C), JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) and Morgan Stanley (MS), all based in New York, have been permitted to expand into commodities markets under a 2003 Fed decision and subsequent ones.

The central bank said last month that it’s reviewing the policy amid Senate scrutiny of whether such involvement
- allows Wall Street firms to control prices.

......................................................................................................................



CFTC Chairman Gary Gensler, declining to comment on specific investigations,
- said at a Senate hearing on July 29 that his agency has legal authority to pursue manipulation of markets
- for metals and other commodities.

The CFTC has sent letters to companies asking them ......not to destroy documents
- relating to warehouses registered by exchanges such as
- the London Metal Exchange or Chicago Mercantile Exchange,
- according to a copy of the letter obtained by Bloomberg News.

gazkaz - 05 Aug 2013 21:59 - 600 of 1034

How tiny the - physical market is :-

The ReserveBank of India’s January 2013 report “Report of the Working Group to Study the Issues Related to Gold Im-ports and Gold Loans by NBFCs.”

On page 58 is the following data sourced from the CPM Gold Yearbook 2011:

Gold Futures and OTC Market Vs Physical Market for Gold (million ounces)

Instrument 2010
Physical market................... 120.8

Futures & Options ET vol..... 6438.8
LBMA (OTC) clearing volume 4727.7

Total 11287.3

Source RBI


Interestingly enough - the article I posted a day or so ago ....suggested "the physical"
- that actually moves via the LBMA - is only a minute... 1% ....of it's clearing volume

If we assumed only 1% on Futures and Options "volume" too,
then - the two combined = 11,166.5...x 1%
= ...111.6

Physical market above quoted at...... 120.8
(The two figs are fairly close)

The other 99%......of the gold ...of the futures & options market
- and the ....LBMA

- would therefore perhaps seem....all smoke and mirrors

gazkaz - 05 Aug 2013 22:41 - 601 of 1034

The CFTC’s Bank Participation Report on trader positions on COMEX
- for June 2013

- showed that the US bullion banks
- had moved to a net long position of nearly..... 30,000.... contracts (3 million oz.)
- from a huge net shortposition of 106,000 contracts (10.6 million oz.)
(when gold peaked in October 2012)
– an overall swing of about $20 billion in - fiat - terms – into a declining market.

The July 2013 data
- shows that the US bullion banks
- increased their .....net long position
- to almost...... 45,000..... contracts, while speculators (hedge funds?) increased shorts and reduced longs.

And that is a Bullion Bank ........50% increase - in net longs.....in just one month

Are the banks (finally) getting ready to squeeze the funds,
- or are they preparing for another big raid ?

Furthermore, Rabobank has followed in the footsteps of ABN Amro
- in suspending delivery of physical bullionto its clients.

*****With rumours circulating *****that a MAJOR bullion bank is ....also
- preparing to change - its delivery agreements,
- the implication being that it too .....will suspend or curtail..... physical delivery.

We are wondering whetherthe breakdown in the physical versus paper gold markets is approaching
...leading to price discovery for physical gold itself.*****

(source - "Thunder Road Report"....Monument Securies)

gazkaz - 05 Aug 2013 22:57 - 602 of 1034

Does the GLD ETF Holdings broadly tracking.... the drop in the Gold Price, suggest
- A - As the price falls - people are cashing in their holding
Or
- B - As the price falls - the big holders.....are taking advantage ....and redeeming baskets of shares...to grab ....real physical





The fact (posted previously) - that 10% of toal GLD shares have been...borrowed
- doesn't seem (imo) to suggest....a surplus of people.... selling them

So I tend to favour......option ...B


And the top 8 holders, by shares held ...of this GLD ETF (of the barborous relic), who "may" be playing the option B....

PAULSON & CO INC
JPMORGAN CHASE & CO
BANK OF AMERICA CORP
NORTHERN TRUST CORP
MORGAN STANLEY
CREDIT SUISSE AG
UBS
BLACKROCK ADVISORS LLC

Coincidentally.......

Predominantly - Banksters Inc :o)

gazkaz - 05 Aug 2013 23:48 - 603 of 1034

Just Interesting

Silver
- July kicked off, that by July 11,
- JPM
- had absorbed nearly 90% of the July Comex silver deliveries,
- and.....primarily for their own or “house” account.

By the entire delivery month end
- and when the totals were finally tabulated,
- JPM had stopped 3,040 of the 3,444 deliveries for July.
- That’s 88.27% ......of the total !!!

But - It gets even better. - Of the 3,040 that JPM took down,
- 2,824 went into their own house account.
- That’s 12,140,000 ounces of silver
(In my speak 377+ Metric Tonnes)
- and in my speak....... 82%.... of all Comex silver deliveries for July.
- To JPM.......&.... Into their own house account.



Gold
- So now here we are into the delivery period for August gold.
- In just the first two days,
- there have already been 1,963 total contracts delivered.
(3,960 stood on First Notice Day - and there will likely be at least another 3,000-4,000 more that will show up during the month).

So how's JPM doing on the gold front ??

Well
- Of the 1,963 contracts delivered last Thursday and Friday,
- JPM has stopped 1,466 .........or 74.7%.
- Additionally, of these 1466,...... 1,206 have gone directly into the JPM house account.
So, if you’re keeping score at home,
- JPM has stopped..... to their own account
- 61.4% of the August deliveries…and
- the month has only just begun.


Now of course
JPM may not.... continue to stack the smack - and may not stash even just a single further oz into there house account for the remainder of the month, but....

(back in a mo - there a flying pig just caused an eclipse of a rare blue moon)

- I somehow doubt it



And...... by coincidence
(Per the option B game....I considered in the previous post)

The GLD “inventory” had been steady at 927.35 metric tonnes..... for over ..a week,
- Then, .......on Thursday and Friday of last week,......... it fell..... 280,000 ounces.

Now, let’s see…

- August Comex delivery also began....... on Thursday and continued Friday.
- So far, there have been 1,963 contracts delivered
- for .......196,300 ounces.

I’m sure that’s just a coincidence…

(Gotta go again - apparently a pair of flying pigs are now doing their aerial ...mating courtship)

gazkaz - 06 Aug 2013 08:08 - 604 of 1034

Well it looks like Wall Street are heading towards the standard zenith...of sucking the sheeple......into US equities
(same old rinse & repeat)
- moms & pops likely to be fleeced (again)....... on the near horizon

Worldwide - the flow into...equities



So out of the worlwide flow into equities above
- how much is Wall Street managing to suck in to.....US Equities
- VS - how much is going into...non US Equities





So how does the...flow (tidal wave ?) into...... US Equities
- compare to the flow into.....other asset classes





So - it seems.....on balance.....ALL - IN on the US equities front so far !

So is it the pro's..... or as usually the case.....the sheeple
- being sucked in at the top
- who will ..as..usual.....be left holding the bag
(when they pull the plug)






And what about the - really big money....the hedge funds
- are they... increasing their exposure to equities
- or unloading...to the willing incoming.....sheeple





Overall therefore
- Equity investment is flying in.....at volumes...... not seen since around 2000/01
- US equities, have the lions share of the worlwide .....flow into equities
- US equities are "top 3" of flows..... into asset class

As to split
- Retail sheeple are ....the net buyers
- and the pro's are the ...net sellers
- with the hedge funds....willingly offloading


Perhaps Kyle Bass was on to something...
...the Fed's policies are forcing..... mom-and-pop.... to
- "put their money in....
- the wrong place at the wrong time."
- There will be consequences for that... there is only one way this will end...

"and investors should be really careful.....
- doing what the central bankers want them to do."


Saturn6 - 06 Aug 2013 14:47 - 605 of 1034

Miners gapped down from the opem.

See if the 61.8% Fib line offers support...

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Notice the similar pattern to $Gold...

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Saturn6 - 06 Aug 2013 15:37 - 606 of 1034

The skewed Inv 'H&S' could be in play still...

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snurkle1 - 06 Aug 2013 15:41 - 607 of 1034

Great stuff guys, thanks for updates and posts.

tick tock



Consulates and the Vatican in Chaos as HSBC tells them to Find Another Bank

"Diplomats in London have been thrown into chaos after Britain's biggest bank, HSBC, sacked them as customers and gave them 60 days to move their accounts."

"Their situation has been made far worse because other banks have been closing ranks and refusing to take their business."

"More than 40 embassies, consulates and High Commissions have been affected. Even the Vatican has been given its marching orders."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-2384003/Consulates-Vatican-chaos-HSBC-tells-bank.html

ahoj - 06 Aug 2013 16:04 - 608 of 1034

That's old story, I suspect those involved knew this for a couple of weeks.

It will be sorted out soon, as many banks would love to offer them the service.
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