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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Stan - 21 Apr 2015 22:37 - 58907 of 81564

Once a Tory clown... always a Tory clown.

Fred1new - 21 Apr 2015 22:41 - 58908 of 81564

Any truth in the rumour that Boris is joining the UKIP party?

ExecLine - 21 Apr 2015 22:41 - 58909 of 81564

It's high time we had a piece on here about these bastards....

Let's see if we can hunt them out to name them and shame them. What they have done cannot possibly equate with doing any kind of a good, conscientious job in their remit of managing and getting the best out of our NHS. All these bastards have been doing is milking the system and feathering their own nests. They ALL deserve the sack!

Hey Tanker! Where are you? This is right up yuor street! Help me on this one, will you please?

NHS bosses 'receive £35m in pay rises' despite hospital funding crisis
Ewan Palmer By Ewan Palmer
April 20, 2015 09:46 BST 11

NHS
Hospital executives received £35 million in pay rises despite pressures on NHS spending(Getty)

NHS bosses have been accused of "shamelessly milking the NHS" after they were found to have earned more than £35m ($52m) in pay rises despite unprecedented spending cuts.

Some executives were found to have earned more than £1m last year, while a handful of bosses at some of the worst-performing hospitals still received bonuses of up to £5,000 a day, reported the Daily Mail.

An investigation found some executives saw pay rises of 6% while nurses at the same hospitals have faced pay freezes for the past five years.

The highest paid boss was Tricia Hart at South Tees Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust, who was paid up to £1.26m last year, according to the investigation. This was despite the Trust currently running a £4.4m deficit.

Overall, the number of bosses who earn more than David Cameron's salary of £142,500 a year have risen by 30% to nearly 600 in the past year. A total of 47 hospital bosses received more than £400,000 last year at a time when 53% of Trusts are in deficit.

The average salary for a nurse in the UK is £26,000.

Government adviser Ros Altmann said the findings were "on the scale of the MPs' expenses scandal".

Both Labour and the Conservatives have promised to launch a review into the findings.

Health secretary Jeremy Hunt said: "A future Conservative government would ask the Department of Health to look at the Mail's investigation in detail to ensure taxpayers are getting the best value for money from managers who must always deliver the best patient care.

"People who do a good job for patients should be paid fairly, but the NHS is a public service and too often high executive pay has been awarded as a matter course, not because of exceptional performance.

"Our tough new inspection regime shines a light on leadership, and our redundancy payment cap is already eliminating some of the worst abuses of the system that grew up under Labour."

Andy Burnham, Labour's shadow health secretary added: "If there has been any abuse it has to be tackled."

"This is excessive at a time when we are asking other NHS staff to exercise restraint.

"There has to be fairness top to bottom in the National Health Service."

Sir Brian Jarman, former president of the British Medical Association, said: "It is wrong. It is as simple as that. It seems to be manipulating the system.

"They should be putting their attention on to lowering their death rates or seeing if there is a problem with the quality of care rather than getting themselves higher incomes."

Altmann added: "It is outrageous, it is so wrong. The bosses who have access to top financial advice are milking the system. The rules would never have been intended to be used in this manner.

"They think they can get away with it just because the law allows it. But morally it is questionable. It is like the MPs' expenses scandal.

"Just as politicians felt entitled to claim money they should not receive so senior managers in the NHS feel entitled to this money just because it is not against the rules. It is not the right thing to do."

MaxK - 21 Apr 2015 22:42 - 58910 of 81564

Fred1new - 21 Apr 2015 22:45 - 58911 of 81564

The tories have been in "charge" of the NHS for 5 years.

Overpaying their mates, perhaps?


Fred1new - 21 Apr 2015 22:46 - 58912 of 81564

The tories have been in "charge" of the NHS for 5 years.

Overpaying their mates, perhaps?


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Stan - 21 Apr 2015 22:48 - 58913 of 81564

EL Just leave it to the Hunt to do his worst.

MaxK - 21 Apr 2015 22:48 - 58914 of 81564

Your lot where in for three terms Fred, have you got an eye/memory problem ?

Fred1new - 22 Apr 2015 07:49 - 58915 of 81564




He must have been looking for Edwina!

Fred1new - 22 Apr 2015 07:51 - 58916 of 81564



Bring back the good old days!

Fred1new - 22 Apr 2015 07:53 - 58917 of 81564

Why is it OK for the UK to leave the EU in order to rule itself, but not for Scotland to leave the UK?

Stan - 22 Apr 2015 08:13 - 58918 of 81564

Standaaaard! (as the paper seller used to shout)... double Standards as the lesser crested Tory moans.

MaxK - 22 Apr 2015 08:24 - 58919 of 81564

Fred.

The jocks were given the chance to rool themselves, and bottled it.

What don't you understand about recent history?

cynic - 22 Apr 2015 08:28 - 58920 of 81564

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cynic - 22 Apr 2015 08:28 - 58921 of 81564

if scotland wants to go it alone, then fine, but they should not then interfere in laws and the like that are not their concern

i confess it's the baleful influence of mccluskey and his hard-left militant buddies who should give every bit as much concern

aldwickk - 22 Apr 2015 08:40 - 58922 of 81564

Stan a nerd , as they still shout

Stan - 22 Apr 2015 09:14 - 58923 of 81564

Drop dead low life.

Haystack - 22 Apr 2015 09:15 - 58924 of 81564

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3049576/Union-s-sinister-hold-Miliband-Mail-investigation-reveals-half-Labour-candidates-key-seats-sponsored-Unite-militants.html

Union's sinister hold over Miliband: Mail investigation reveals over half of Labour candidates in key seats are sponsored by Unite militants

More than half of Labour candidates in winnable seats sponsored by Unite
Analysis conducted by the Mail lays bare the union's grip on Ed Miliband
Its £14.3million contribution makes it the biggest donor to the Labour party
Many of Unite leader Len McCluskey's demands have become party policy

More than half of Labour candidates in winnable seats are sponsored by just one hard-left trade union.

Fifty-four of the party's contenders for 106 target constituencies are either members of Unite, or are endorsed or partially bankrolled by it.

The analysis by the Mail lays bare the extraordinary stranglehold the union's firebrand leader 'Red' Len McCluskey has on Ed Miliband.

Tories say the general secretary's degree of influence is payback for the huge sums Unite has given to Labour since 2010.

Its £14.3million contribution makes it the biggest donor to the party. Together, the unions have handed £40million to Mr Miliband – two thirds of the Labour leader's funding. The avalanche of cash is reflected in the party's candidate list. Of 410 new faces for the General Election on May 7, one in three – 133 – have links with Unite.

Labour's close ties with the union will be on display on Friday evening when Mr McCluskey will be the special guest at a major rally in Glasgow.

Party leaders hope the intervention of the former supporter of the Trotskyist Militant Tendency will help fend off the threat of the SNP.

Many of the Unite leader's demands have become party policy under Mr Miliband, including the abolition of the spare-room subsidy or bedroom tax.

Labour is also pledging to adopt other Unite-inspired policies such as a ban on zero-hours contracts, a large increase in the minimum wage, scrapping fees for employment tribunals and rent controls.

Mr Miliband has announced plans to part-renationalise the rail network – another policy pushed by Mr McCluskey – and Labour has repeatedly refused to rule out increasing corporation tax, a change the Unite leader has argued for.

Two years ago, Unite was mired in scandal for trying to 'manipulate' Labour's selection of a candidate in Falkirk by stuffing the local membership with its supporters.

Henry Smith, Tory candidate for Crawley, said: 'Labour is nothing more than the political wing of the trade unions, with Ed Miliband an appointed puppet who squeaks whatever Red Len tells him to. The consequences could not be dire: more wasteful spending, more unaffordable borrowing and higher taxes for hardworking families.'

Mr Miliband was elected Labour leader in 2010 thanks to the support of the unions. The frontrunner, his brother David, won more support among Labour MPs and party members. But Ed won more support among the unions, pushing him over the winning line. Trade unions gave £148,000 toward his leadership campaign – including £115,000 from Unite. Mr Miliband was endorsed by Unite, with the then two co-general secretaries, Derek Simpson and Tony Woodley, urging members to vote for him.

After the result was announced, the new Labour leader was observed putting an arm round them and saying: 'Thank you.' Fifty-three of Unite members had voted for him. Since Mr Miliband became leader, the unions have donated £40.4million to the Labour Party, according to the Electoral Commission. Unison has handed over £8.1million while the GMB has donated £6.9million and Usdaw £6.1million.

Another £2.6million has come from the CWU, £730,000 from UCATT and £690,000 from the union Community.

In target seats, 84 per cent of Labour candidates have union links.

Harriet Harman, Andy Burnham and Chuka Umunna are all Unite members.

A spokesman for Labour said: 'We are proud to have selected a wide range of candidates with varying backgrounds including carers, military personnel and business people.

'Trade unions have no undue influence over Labour's candidate selection process, and unlike the Tories who stand up only for a privileged few, Labour is on the side of millions of hardworking people.'

A spokesman for Unite said: 'There is no such thing as a Unite MP or candidate, there are only Labour candidates. We fully support all Labour candidates.'

Stan - 22 Apr 2015 09:18 - 58925 of 81564

Scar-mongering alert... Again!

cynic - 22 Apr 2015 09:22 - 58926 of 81564

i saw a copy the Mail over breakfast, and no wonder it's held in little esteem
it makes the Telegraph look almost left wing!

nevertheless, i certainly agree with its sentiment re mccluskey and his scary acolytes
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