Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

aldwickk - 22 Apr 2015 23:36 - 58988 of 58996

"It was us little Englanders who won the battle of Britain and want on to free Europe you moron"

Well well not only a little Englander but an abusive obnoxious low life as well... but then we already new that.

Vote Labour! What could possibly go wrong?

Hilary

Best that you move to France to live

Fortunately, Alders, idiots like Farage will never have any permanent influence in society. He is riding on a tide of emotion at the moment, borne out of the ignorance of the masses, of which a few clearly exist on this thread.

I do hope that the Conservatives get a majority, and I do hope that the UK get to have a referendum, because I think that is what the public want, and I believe they have a right to their say. But Farage and his cronies are already being exposed as racist bigots, and once the public have eventually been afforded their right to a democratic say on the future of the UK within the UK, Farage will go back to being a used car salesman, never to be heard of again.

Oh, and by the way, I do like France. But it would be so much nicer without the French.

That's right hilly, everyones stupid according to your liberal elite handbook.

And as for Cameroon, Millibandus or Cleggy....none will come up with a referendum, they are all bullshitting, as per orders.

And hilly talks about arsists....lol


hilary - 23 Apr 2015 08:18 - 59001 of 59002

Oh, and by the way, I do like France. But it would be so much nicer without the French.

Let's see now Buggery , Male rape etc etc of young deprived underpriviledged drugged, fed with alchohol , well that's ok yeh . Oh but my God you hint at any criticism of people that dump themselves on the country . Don't know who they are what their intentions are don't integrate , breed , use up valuable council funds amenities hospitals etc . Oh Gosh how shocking .

When I went to work in Rio de Janeiro, as part of my work visa requirements, I had to take a recent chest xray from a medical practice approved by the Brazilian Consulate, a letter from the police stating that I had no criminal convictions and take a test for AIDS HIV. I didnt think that was unreasonable despite being married to a Brazilian. Why is it so shocking for immigrants to this country to have similar requirements? Hardly racist, common sense to me.

Hilary

Would the UK be so much nicer without the Muslim's ?

Do you mean all muslims, Alders, or are you just talking about the ones who support terrorism? And are you excluding the muslim doctors who work 70 hour weeks in those inner city hospitals you go on about?

Victim,

It is not the subjects one chooses to discuss, but perhaps, the manner, or language one chooses when discussing them.

Also, whether it is a statement of fact or opinion one is making.

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Only 2 weeks to wait before the Tories secure their majority.
2517

LOL,

Put your skirt on it!

So you will be voting "Con" again then George?

France is a lovely country.....but has anybody noticed that the French prime minister always looks like he has just got through french "Minder" auditions !....about to shake hands on a ford capri....or more probably.....a citroen ds.....

Stan, the outcome looks to be either a coalition with Tories, or coalition with Labour and the SNP. The SNP have stated their intentions to block Labour to suit themselves and also remove our nuclear deterrent. The English/Welsh/NI cannot vote for the SNP because they are not represented anywhere except Scotland, I have difficulty accepting to be governed by an entity that I cannot vote for.

Out for an hour so can't reply.
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Fred1new Send an email to Fred1new View Fred1new's profile - 23 Apr 2015 09:12 - 59008 of 59014

Victim,

It is not the subjects one chooses to discuss, but perhaps, the manner, or language one chooses when discussing them.

Also, whether it is a statement of fact or opinion one is making.

Pompous twat

Amid Libya's chaos, business booms for migrant smugglers
By Maggie Michael and Lee Keath
The Associated Press
POSTED: 23/04/2015 12:01:00 AM MDT

An illegal migrant from Nigeria is caged at a detention camp near Tripoli in 2013. With no central authority in Libya, the migrant smuggling business is booming. Smugglers are charging more, buying bigger boats and more guns, and creating a vicious circle that causes more tragedies in the Mediterranean Sea. (Associated Press file)
CAIRO — Libya's chaos has turned it into a lucrative magnet, attracting migrants desperate to make the dangerous sea voyage to Europe.

With no central authority to stop it, business is booming. Smugglers charge ever more as demand goes up, then use the profits to buy larger boats and heavier weapons to ensure no one dare touch them.

It's a vicious cycle that translates into more tragedies at sea.

With each rickety boat that sets off from Libya's coast, traffickers rake in hundreds of thousands of dollars. So assured are they of their impunity that they operate openly. Many use Facebook to advertise their services to migrants desperate to flee war, repression and poverty in the Middle East and Africa.

And they are armed to the teeth, often working with powerful militias in Libya that control territory and hold political power.

One coast guard officer in Sabratha, a Libyan coastal city that is a main launch point for smugglers' boats headed to Europe, said his small force can do little to stop them. Recently, he heard about a vessel about to leave but refused to send his men to halt it.

"This would be suicidal," he said on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation from the traffickers. "When you see smugglers with anti-aircraft guns mounted on pickup trucks on the beach, and you have an automatic rifle, what are you going to do?"

If any one factor explains the jump in illegal crossings into Europe, it's Libya's turmoil since the 2011 civil war that ousted dictator Moammar Khadafy.

As boat traffic increases, so do disasters. Over the weekend, a ship packed with migrants capsized off Libya, leaving at least 800 dead, the deadliest shipwreck ever in the Mediterranean. At least 1,300 people have died in the past three weeks alone, putting 2015 on track to be the deadliest year ever.

During his rule, Khadafy struck deals with Europe to police the traffic, helping to keep the numbers down. In 2010, about 4,500 migrants made the perilous crossing from North Africa to Italy, the vast majority departing from Libya, according to the EU border agency Frontex.

In 2014, that number spiraled to more than 170,000.



European authorities have scrambled to deal with the crisis. One proposal is to fund camps in countries bordering Libya to house migrants before they reach its coast.

Italian Defense Minister Roberta Pinotti said Wednesday there are contingency plans for military intervention against smugglers in Libya and that Italy is willing to lead an operation if it gets U.N. backing.

In the past year, Libya's crumbling into anarchy has accelerated. There are two rival governments, neither with any real authority, each fighting the other on the ground. Militias hold sway around the country.


In the chaos, smuggling has "become an organized crime, with cross-border mafias in possession of weapons, information and technology," said the head of an independent agency that studies human trafficking and tries to help migrants in Sabratha.

Extensive cross-border smuggling networks organize different legs of the journey: First from the migrants' home country to the Libyan border, then from the border to a jumping-off point on the coast, then onto boats for the Mediterranean crossing.

Migrants pay for each leg of the journey. It costs about $1,000 to get to Libya from Senegal and about $2,500 from Ethiopia, according to migration experts in those countries.

A place on an inflatable boat across the Mediterranean can run $500, while relatively sturdier wooden or steel boats run from $1,000 to $2,000, said one smuggler, Luqman, in the city of Zwara, a main launching point.