Yep same here, annoying isn't it. However in addition to providers listed under LLU you also have all the providers that use BT lines so it isn't true you're stuck with BT.

I have just moved to these people: http://www.adsl24.co.uk/

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always thought that moving to a wholesale outfit gave you no gain (except perhaps a few a month) since you are still at the mercy of bt

The physical connection is still provided by BT, however the service isn't, so you are not talking to the BT call centre, have different bandwidth limits, prices, other details such as hosting etc. Personally I prefer smaller/medium sized ISPs which also tend to have UK call centres.

maddoctor. Haven't BT upgraded you and, at the same time, given you a new 12 month contract :-(

will now consider it , tired of bt

bolshi , yer new contract but that is all i have got so far :-((

maddoctor. I think you're stuck with them for 12 months m8 :-(((

only if they deliver

maddoctor

I'm with BT but out of contract. I had a BT Voyager 205 router and have just swapped it for an unlocked BT 210 Voyager bought on eBay. It will handle 8Mbps without any problems - but not for me because I am too far from the exchange.

The seller was absolutely excellent. I went for an Ethernet model rather than a USB and also bought some Develo adapters. Here's the link to him:

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Puzbies-Emporium

I see he has a '210' at 14.99 + 6.50 postage or you can bid instead.

PS. A BT Voyager 205 can be got on eBay for about 2.50 so I am keeping my old one as a spare.

docproc - seems it is not the router but the shambles calling itself BT
they have not upgraded me today and have had a useless discussion with the lot in Mumbai , no matter how cheap they are , they are being paid too much!

Test Your PC Knowledge - all levels catered for

My computer keeps crashing when I am scrolling the bb on a rival financial site (adv fn) and I don't know if it is my computer or their site.

It's a mac mini and I haven't a clue about computers so I would be really grateful for any suggestions.

Thanks, mabel.

I don't have any trouble with that site, so i would assume that it is your computer. However, I know nothing about Mac's so you will have to wait for a mac user to come along.

mabel

Seeing as how your machine isn't crashing on this site, might it not be an idea to take it up with their techies? :-)

I'd say, you either need more RAM installing or you've got some kind of software conflict going on.

:-

Here's a good Apple mac mini forum

PS. Although you can't type 'moneyam' on that site, you can type 'advfn' on this one. ;-)

Many thanks for your response.

Doc, have been using my mac for over 2 years without problems, but will check out the Apple forum.

when i am trying to shut down my computer on XP , i get a popup saying MCCWSAWin is running and needs to close - then another popup saying programme
will not respond , this stops the shutdown until i end the not responding.

searched machine and google and ms website and can find no reference to this programme

anybody any clue?

Here is a reference. I am not too sure about the suggested remedies though. Have you tried running the task manager Ctrl-Alt-Del and look at processes.

It might also be worth looking at Windows Key - R and then msconfig. Look at startup routines to see if you can see it there.

http://www.mcse.ms/message2580481.html

task manager does not show it running Haystack

saw this http when i googled but no idea what to do

What do you mean by windows key r

not much of a techy i am afraid

don,t see it in the startup msconfig