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Haystack - 09 Jun'05 - 08:23 - 589 of 589 (Filtered)

If only everybody would do this on the other side, things would be far more pleasant!

So nice not to see the same old graphs and nonsense.

Kayak, 1899 are using some lost leaders in an attempt to increase their UK business. Present UK users are approximately 5000 after years of trading, which is a bit shabby really when there are already more than that using CCR after only a couple of months!!!

It would be obvious to anybody with a brain that no company can sustain free international calls all day. It would only take one company to get wind of that and their profits would fly out their Swiss Window!

CCR have started with realistic and sustainable rates and as the wise amongst us all know, are NOT just an international call business.

When details are released of just what CCR is being utilised for, perhaps then all will be clear!!!

Anyway if you want 10p per minute to mobiles without a connection fee, there are plenty of other services, just dial the number you require after the number given, no need to register:

0871 999 72 72 at 10p on Telediscount0871 280 5 280 at 10p on PennyPhone0871 999 14 14 at 10p on Telestunt0871 999 17 17 at 10p on CheapestCalls0871 999 53 53 at 10p on TeleSavers0871 999 32 32 at 10p on Dialaround0871 999 47 47 at 10p on DialWise0871 999 63 63 at 10p on BestMinutes

Kayak Its very simple once you have your new number you enter in to your mobile by editing you original number, all CCR numbers start with 0871 or 0844 so you only have to remember the ******* number quite simple. But you have to go with what suite you

advans, I tried this 10p to a mobile and ended up paying 32p for a 20 second call. It was from a pay-as-you-go (o2) into a pay-as-you-go (vodafone). Any ideas?

The 1899 and 18866 services have been offering cheap calls for a couple of years. That is not a loss leader. What does it matter anyway as far as the consumer is concerned anyway? It has saved me huge amounts. It has not acted as a loss leader for me as I only use the cheapest rates that they provide.

Your argument does not make sense. I know of several businesses that use the 0.5p rates to the US. A couple of well known posters with companies post on the Traders BB here about how much money they save using 18866 and 1899. You try telling them that the cheap rates are a loss leader.

Kayak, telestunt charges 15p to a mobile, Pennyphone charges 10p but look at the small print-

How much exactly do I pay?
You only pay the pennyphone rate. There are no extra costs, VAT is already included. Call rates are announced before each connection, this way you are always in control of your costs.
Your telecom provider charges a connection fee for each call. BT and NTL charge 5p. Telewest charges 6p for 08-numbers and 10p for 09-numbers. For more information please contact your telecom provider

This is the same with all, a catch somewhere! I researched all these in the past and they all something that leaves them behind CCR.

Parthian, Mobile to Mobile suffers the same probs throughout the industry as each service provider adds their bit on to the 10p.

There are a few exceptions and from what I have learned recently, mobile operators are soon to be kicked into touch.

You need to ring Envesta to find out which operators charge what because they all have different charges.

I was under the impression that on an 02 contract, there were no charges, but I could be mistaken on that!

There is no catch with 1899 and 18866 as there are no extra charges. When I call UK landlines it says "this is free phone call" or "0p per minute". I just oay the connection charge and I can stay on all day for free.

An interseting comment on Bloomberg last night, I only caught the end of it, but mobile call charges in India have been radically cut and this has increased the amount of subscribers recently by 1.7 million or so, which will certainly benefit CCR as they must be the most pro-active company in marketing at the moment. The right place at the right time can make one big difference to a company's success!!!

advans, you're keen on this one I can tell, but the market is an extremely competitive one. The service may be OK but it certainly isn't the best thing since sliced bread and there are plenty of others like it if not better. Unlikely to be a moneyspinner therefore.

The 1899 service also has a system where you can take advantage of their low international calling rates when using your mobile.

Haystack - 09 Jun'05 - 08:49 - 597 of 598 (Filtered)

I shan't copy this in again Hay, it is a permanent feature. I cannot see what you say, it is bound to be useless crap anyway.

Save your keyboard!!!!!

thanks advans - you're right. I bought What Mobile or some such title the other day and couldn't believe the complexity of tariffs and offers. How does anyone without a doctorate in Astrophysics get by nowadays.

advans
As I am filtered by you, what makes you think my posts are directed to you? A lapse in logic somewhere I think. I am posting responses to your posts, but they are directed at the thread and not you. I am sure that you can read anyway. Very few people actually filter anyone. It is used more often as a form of insult. There, take that, I have filtered you. I never filter anyone as negative views are often more important than positive ones.

We'll see! And you are wrong (you are sounding suspiciously like Haystack too!), CCR is NOT just like all the rest, it's product has a few very diverse angles to it which are being used for purposes nothing to do with international calls. I fear you will have to join the queue to understand exactly what!

All will soon be revealed. Many of the dealers signed up are fully aware of what CCR are achieveing and I personally know the fulll potential because I have sold it to an organisation who will never call abroad. They have a totally different use for the 'instant non-geo numbers'!

If the people who condemned it actually knew what it actually does, they would have to admit they were wrong and comments like ' Unlikely to be a moneyspinner therefore' would have to be eaten!!!!!

Sorry, bad termination, not 'suspiciously, more 'awfully like'!!

Morning Chris,
Didnt have a sore head this morning, was unexpected. Even went shopping and didnt get irratable with any Germans. Got my pension sorted at last, even got a refund from the tax man. If you would like to meet up for the day on Sat 25th June, I will be in UK, have not made any plans yet but might take the kids to Chessington.

I must agree with Kayak. This maket is incredibly crowded. Even AOL are offering their subscribers cheap phone call deals. I think CCR is going to fall on its face and get withdrawn after a year or so after making losses. Until then it could easily be a drag on EVS. Even EVS did expect it to make money for 18 months and t only started recently. That could mean depressed profits for EVS for another year at least.

Can probably manage that mate!

We will stay in that area for the night before heading back home on Sunday. You could bring your daughter to the park. There is a slight ammendment to the header ;-)