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Bioprogress (BPRG)     

scorpion - 13 Aug 2003 13:54

Bioprogress is a stock I have been in and out of quite a few times since it floated in May but not much mention here on the Investors' Room. Does anyone else follow this stock. I see it is up 1.5p today and a few good buyers seem to have appeared.

Big Al - 01 Jul 2004 16:48 - 592 of 2372

Another cracking day for BPRG - not.

Unfortunately 60p is getting ever closer and to reach a quid again requires an increase in the share price of 60% from this evening's close. It would be amazing in this market.

Dil - 01 Jul 2004 17:21 - 593 of 2372

nematode you have been spouting the same crap for months.

Are you aware that the yanks can short as well as buy ?

Big Al - 01 Jul 2004 19:02 - 594 of 2372

Woof!

Tristan - 02 Jul 2004 13:33 - 595 of 2372

Blue! :-)

scotinvestor - 02 Jul 2004 13:35 - 596 of 2372

big deal

Aerotus - 02 Jul 2004 13:41 - 597 of 2372

Anybody know why SEO is up 8.9% please? Are they rumoured to have made an out of court settlement with BPRG? (This is just a guess)

Big Al - 02 Jul 2004 13:56 - 598 of 2372

Aerotus - seems to be a long term support/resistance level? Maybe, but it did break shorter term support at 4.75p on results earlier in the week. Might just be a dcb. Who knows.

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BPRG having its blue day for the week I guess.

Big Al - 02 Jul 2004 15:17 - 599 of 2372

Correct that - it's red yet again.

Aerotus - 02 Jul 2004 15:53 - 600 of 2372

God I'm so bored at work with no access to advfn boards. I'm so bored that I'm gonna make a prediction that BPRG will finish blue today. I think many shorters will be uncomfortable to hold BPRG over the weekend or risk being flamed by the imminent good news on its way!

angi - 02 Jul 2004 15:55 - 601 of 2372

I had an email from bprg the other day saying that they were trying to stop the Berlin 'naked' trading, no detail how. Has anyone any information?

Aerotus - 02 Jul 2004 16:00 - 602 of 2372

They released an RNS stating they would do everything in their power to de-list. Should be a matter of days before we get confirmation. Price will rise 10% just on this news imo.

P.S Green now! Blue soon!

Janus - 02 Jul 2004 16:03 - 603 of 2372

Interesting article.

A rude surprise: Firm listed in Berlin

By JOHN HEINZL
From Friday's Globe and Mail


Most chief executive officers celebrate when their shares get listed on a stock exchange. Robert Rudman, CEO of SmarTire Systems Inc., called his lawyer.Last month, he discovered that SmarTire's stock, which normally trades on the U.S. Over the Counter Bulletin Board, had mysteriously shown up on a tiny regional exchange in Germany.

"It's as weird as it sounds, believe me," said Mr. Rudman, whose Richmond, B.C., company makes tire-monitoring systems for the transportation industry.

"It came out of nowhere for us."

It turns out SmarTire has plenty of company. Hundreds of Canadian, U.S. and other companies -- mostly small firms trading in the lightly regulated over-the-counter market -- have suddenly found their shares listed on the Berlin-Bremen Stock Exchange (BBSE) without their knowledge or consent.

Worse, many say the unauthorized listing coincided with a sharp drop in the value of their shares.

This has sparked suspicions -- so far unsubstantiated -- that traders are using the German exchange to skirt new U.S. securities laws designed to clamp down on naked short selling, a shady practice that can sink the price of a stock. The BBSE says such practices are not possible under German rules.

"We suspect that the constant selling pressure on our market may well be related to the listing on the BBSE," said Peter Ticktin, CEO of PonyExpress USA Inc., a courier company in Boca Raton, Fla.

Lifestream Technologies Inc. of Post Falls, Idaho, which markets cholesterol monitors, also said its shares plunged after it was listed on the BBSE, even though the company recently signed a major distribution deal with Walgreen Co., the largest U.S. drugstore chain.

"The recent share price decline cannot be simply tied to any recent change in the company's day-to-day operations," it said in a letter to shareholders this week.

In Canada, companies caught in BBSE's net have included BIMS Renewable Energy Inc. of Montreal, Dragon Pharmaceutical Inc. of Vancouver and Altachem Pharma Ltd. of Edmonton.

In a short sale, an investor borrows shares and sells them on the open market, hoping to buy them back after the price falls and replace them for a profit. In a naked short sale -- a tool that organized groups of traders use to manipulate the market -- a large amount of shares that do not exist are sold to a market maker in the stock on the exchange in the hopes that the sale will create downward pressure on the price before the regulated time span for actual delivery of the stock (usually three business days). Then, after the share price declines, real shares are purchased and transferred to the market maker.

"It wouldn't surprise me in the least that, as the United States tightens up [on naked short selling], the wrongdoers go elsewhere," said Warren Funt, vice-president of member regulation for Western Canada at the Investment Dealers Association of Canada.

While naked shorting per se falls under a regulatory grey area, using it to manipulate a company's stock is clearly illegal, he said. While he has no evidence that the German market has become a haven for naked short sellers, "it's a perfectly logical hypothesis to me," he said.

But the BBSE says it's an unfortunate misunderstanding. Exchange spokeswoman Eva Klose said in a statement that the BBSE has allowed trading of foreign over-the-counter shares for years with no complaints, and that the practice of listing such shares without the companies' approval complies with German securities laws.

She dismissed the allegations of naked short selling, saying the procedure for settling trades and the "strict regulatory framework in Germany" makes it impossible.

She added that the BBSE, which met with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and the National Association of Securities Dealers last month to discuss the matter, reviewed trading records of companies that had complained about illegal short selling and "came to the conclusion that in none of these cases there was an indication that short selling actually took place."

In some instances, the stocks in question had not yet begun trading on the BBSE, while in others there was no buying or selling during the period when the price fell on the U.S. market, she said.

In an interview, BBSE spokesman Andreas Weihmuller said about 300 companies have asked to be delisted, and the exchange has complied in about half of those cases. He said German brokerage Berliner Freiverkehr was responsible for listing most of the companies because it wanted a market for the securities.

Only companies that have no trading volume on the BBSE qualify for delisting, he said. If a company that trades actively were to be delisted, German investors who own the stock would not be able to sell their positions, he said.

The BBSE has been unfairly tarred, he added.

"I understand the shareholders' and the companies' requests for delisting because their stocks are falling down in price, but I think the problem is not really in our stock exchange but in the rules in the U.S.," he said. The real issue, he said, is a loophole that allows a sophisticated form of arbitrage between the U.S. over-the-counter market and Internet-based platforms that handle trading volumes far greater than the BBSE, he said.

Mr. Rudman of SmarTire said his stock hasn't been shorted yet, but it's not a risk he wants to take. SmarTire lawyers in Canada and the United States have demanded the shares be delisted, but the exchange has so far refused.

"As a business person, you have to sit back and say 'How did this happen?' " he said.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040702.wxrsmart02/BNStory/Business/

angi - 02 Jul 2004 16:31 - 604 of 2372

As I understand it, naked shorting used to be legal in the USA but was stopped because stocks were sold and no stock provided. Since then, a lot of American, Canadian and British, mostly small but not exclusively, companies were listed without companies permission.

How can the BBSE say that only stocks that don't trade can be delisted when they are all on that market illegally.

Janus - 02 Jul 2004 16:34 - 605 of 2372

Its not illegal in Germany for them to be listed in Berlin.

angi - 02 Jul 2004 16:36 - 606 of 2372

Without the company's permission?

Janus - 02 Jul 2004 16:36 - 607 of 2372

Yup

angi - 02 Jul 2004 16:40 - 608 of 2372

Well that's another hole that needs to be plugged. It's terrifying really. Is BBSE like Cantor/Cityindex?

Janus - 02 Jul 2004 16:42 - 609 of 2372

Angi, no its Berlin stockmarket

http://www.berlinerboerse.de/?LANG=en

Big Al - 02 Jul 2004 16:51 - 610 of 2372

Interesting conversation on shorting.

I must admit I felt exactly the same way when I first got in this game about 7 years ago. However, and having been burned many times by only having the opportunity to "bet" one way, I came to the conclusion that if you can't beat them, you might as well join them. I've never looked back, although this has been helped by the market movements over the past few years.

When I first began reading investment/ trading books I found the practice of shorting stocks has been going on since markets first began and has probably been a fairly big thing since the late 1800's. It is not new by any stretch of the imagination. The only thing it might be is unpalatable to most, but this investment/trading is a cut-throat business and capitalism at its ugly worst.

Please bear that in mind and at the very least understand properly how markets work. It is an eyeopener.

Al
;-)

PS - BPRG had a green day. No losses or gains all round then.

Janus - 02 Jul 2004 16:55 - 611 of 2372

Well thats it, away on holiday sailing around the Canaries for the next couple of weeks although I have satelite connection and can get on the net. Doubt if I will be looking at this BB again for a couple of weeks.
Although I did enjoy Big Als daily price news release.
Hopefully it will have started rising nicely again by then.
Hope so or I might have to find a proper job!
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