cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 20 Jun 2011 16:12
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let's hope dow can hang on to its modest gain over the whole session .... not greatly meaningful other than psychologically
halifax
- 20 Jun 2011 16:35
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cynic sooner or later even the Yanks will wake up to the fact that the greek situation is like a pimple on a pumpkin in world economic terms,an economy based on olives and showing idiot tourists their rapidly decaying architecture.Soon perhaps will be the time to be averaging those semi-submerged holdings, pretty sure Warren is doing exactly that.
cynic
- 20 Jun 2011 16:39
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and i thought i was meant to be the cynic!
skinny
- 20 Jun 2011 16:41
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Halifax - "like a pimple on a pumpkin" - interesting analogy!
halifax
- 20 Jun 2011 16:42
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cynic don't panic Capt M....... springs to mind,just politicians trying to justify their existence when this storm in a pisspot is resolved.
HARRYCAT
- 20 Jun 2011 16:57
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I think it is the implication of the domino effect, rather than Greece as an isolated problem. (i.e. who else will default or need mega assistance and what therefore becomes of the ? The pimple then becomes a cancer).
halifax
- 20 Jun 2011 17:14
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Harry time to take off that sandwich board....." the end of the world is...."
cynic
- 20 Jun 2011 17:31
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the end of the world is ..... a surfeit of domino's pizzas
emailpat
- 21 Jun 2011 10:19
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Hi guys
I need a little bit of advice, having been following various threads on here for a few years as a long term investor. I have taken the plunge and started spread betting indices(ftse,dow) 1 a point using ma,volatility,volume and trend lines and playing with some other indicators. Some questions arise mainly entry and exit, small moves maybe 10points with a view to building up to 10 per point. Any advice would be much appreciated and obviously I know the risks ie. DYOR
skinny
- 21 Jun 2011 11:59
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Hi Pat - I trade the FTSE regularly using spread betting. I used to trade the DOW, but that's often like grabbing a viper by the tail - it is bound to bite you! For the FTSE, I often put in limit orders 40 or so points away from closing prices (both long and short) and often get filled to my advantage - sometimes not! To start with, I would keep the stake small and look to trade for 20+ points with the trend. You mention trading for 10 point moves - I think you will find this hard to do - especially with stops in place.
cynic
- 21 Jun 2011 13:00
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markets are currently very jittery (scary if you like) with the greek tragedy overhanging all ...... general consensus is that pandreou will win tonight's vote and they'd better be right ..... even then, there will be several more weeks volatility until the bail out dosh and terms are agreed
emailpat
- 21 Jun 2011 13:47
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Hi Skinny-thanks for reply....sorry for being a thicko but how does that work? and who do you use?
cynic
- 21 Jun 2011 16:53
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let's hope the markets have got it right in anticipating papandreou getting his vote of confidence ..... if they haven't, there won't even be pieces left to pick up
KEAYDIAN
- 21 Jun 2011 17:04
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When's the big decision?
cynic
- 21 Jun 2011 17:07
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21:00 GMT tonight i believe, but i think that's 20:00 uk summer time
jkd
- 21 Jun 2011 17:23
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i thought we were 1 hour ahead of GMT.
could be wrong
regards
jkd
halifax
- 21 Jun 2011 17:24
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cynic there is no alternative, what's the fuss all about?
cynic
- 21 Jun 2011 17:37
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yes there is; they can let greece go hang, but i concur that is most unlikely as the repercussions would be almost unthinkable ..... whether euro(zone) will have quite the same form as today in 10 years or even 5 years time, is much more questionable - thank goodness uk is not part of it
cynic
- 21 Jun 2011 17:39
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jkd - you may well be right; in that case after all western markets have shut shop
skinny
- 21 Jun 2011 17:45
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