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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Dil - 06 Dec 2016 10:59 - 5950 of 12628

Aye and Sturgeon and the idiot in charge of Welsh Assembly.

Wales voted out , he lost seats and voters left right and centre to UKIP and the chump thinks he speaks for us on Brexit !

Dil - 06 Dec 2016 11:06 - 5951 of 12628

To be honest I really don't give a flying shit if half a dozen sheep farmers in Wales lose their EU subsidies when freedom of movement and the single market has meant factories closing in Wales and being relocated to Eastern European countries with the loss of 100's probably 1000's of jobs here in Wales.

jimmy b - 06 Dec 2016 11:36 - 5952 of 12628

While the immigrants that we so badly need in booming Britain flood in.

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2016 11:48 - 5953 of 12628

This is what gets me , how many hundreds of thousand are going to make their way here with nothing to stop them in the next 30 odd months , whether there are jobs or not . Just dump themselves on us and stay it's criminal .

Haystack - 06 Dec 2016 13:24 - 5954 of 12628

JB
Parliament makes the law based on GE manifestos. The judges then interpret those laws

If the will of the people was paramount we would have calital punishment

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2016 14:03 - 5955 of 12628

Sometimes I wish we had, and I was passing the sentence.

But others seem to prefer suicide!

grannyboy - 06 Dec 2016 14:08 - 5956 of 12628

If there was a referendum on capital punishment and the majority was
for it, then the majority's wishes should be carried out..Otherwise why
would they have a referendum in the first place..

But with the weak bleeding heart liberals holding roost there won't be
a referendum on capital punishment anytime soon...

UNLIKE A REFERENDUM ON LEAVING THE EU!!!!..Errr....Opppps!

Haystack - 06 Dec 2016 14:34 - 5957 of 12628

The reason there is no referendum on capital punishment is because there has historically always been a majority in favour. This is an example of where the the will of the people is ignored. I say historically, because now there seems to be a substantial majority opposed to it.

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2016 14:57 - 5958 of 12628

Morality, has caught up with the law.

For the majority, it usually seems to.

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2016 15:21 - 5959 of 12628

You always speak as if you are some celestial being Freda , and yet thinking back to a lot of your diatribe and verbal spewings it mostly works out to be total bullshit eh .

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2016 15:32 - 5960 of 12628

Vicky,

I alway had doubts in your ability to understand other than a very little.

Thinking must be difficult for you.

But keep on trying, you never know.


VICTIM - 06 Dec 2016 15:36 - 5961 of 12628

I'm always trying Freda , but I'm not as trying as you .

VICTIM - 06 Dec 2016 15:46 - 5962 of 12628

Anyway at least I use my VOTE , unlike some i could mention .

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2016 17:10 - 5963 of 12628

You mean you support a democratic government and its right to govern?


grannyboy - 06 Dec 2016 20:33 - 5965 of 12628

Rubbish, May has done nothing but capitulate....

WE'RE HEADING FOR A STITCH UP!!!......

Fred1new - 06 Dec 2016 20:47 - 5966 of 12628

Good!

MaxK - 06 Dec 2016 21:35 - 5967 of 12628

There has to be some give..after all, labour have privy councillors, so will know lots of detail anyway.

The trick is, to get Art50 on the books, there is no way out then.

As labour are keen to know the details..fine, it don't matter if they disagree, they are signed up.

Excuses will make them look like snowflakes, and that would be the end of them.



This all assumes, May is on the level. (not proven)

grannyboy - 06 Dec 2016 21:50 - 5968 of 12628

It just opens the whole process up to more delays, more giving up of
the government's strategy and plans..The UK just should leave and then
start the negotiation's, otherwise we're going to have the gangsters in Brussels
dictating the whole show and to their timetable..

And when you have someone who is weak and keeps changing her mind, the
UK's going to be done up like a kipper..

grannyboy - 06 Dec 2016 21:55 - 5969 of 12628

Fred1new 5967

"Good!"


What an idiot, but what do you expect from a first generation muslim..
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