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Well said Stockdog - 20p is very irrelevant - waiting for the optimum dip can often leave you wistful

sd

Not sure the 600,000 was a sell. Timing of the trade placed it mid price, so who knows? Probably doesn't really matter.

pth

I see stockdog has got his clock wrong - thinks its evening; I wonder what he was up to all night!

Agree the comments re MMs but they will be influenced by what they know in terms of lines of stock in the wings. They do seem happier to move sp down to bring buyers back in and presumably discourage selling. The 600K could well be a buy given the timing of the deal. We are back in the 23p to 20p trading range but with a new strong support at 21.25p. Doesn't seem likely therefore that the sp will retrace as far as 20p. Seems evidence of shorting once the price rises and some enthusiastic buying when it falls. A real bull/bear battle - Waterloo with the bulls the good boys because they will be the ultimate winners! I wonder what happened to The French Connection.

baza: my advice is not to set stop losses. blue index, for instance, love you to set them. But they call your position, if negative, on a Friday which basically has the same effect; but it gives you the chance to review what you are selling. I have had to sell SEO on the way down but that mans I am now much less vulnerable although any buying back will be into strength on the way up.

I think the investor/trader contrast is somewhat artificial. I am something of a hybrid (not sexually!). The argument is rather between the fundamentalist and the TA. At present, the fundamentals remain strong but the TA is weak although with strong support at just below the present price. For those trying to judge their actions, I suggest the 3:1 rule, i.e. upside to downside. The support is [probably 21.25p and the resistance around 30p so that makes a buy on TA at up 23.5p. On fundamentals it is an on-going 'accumulate' as funds are available with no discernable limit to the upside potential.

Eric

pt - I saw this trade as it happened on level 2 and read it as a sell - but can't remember why now. If it was a buy, then it probably calls the bottom and ignore my thoughts about sell programmes just yet.

Will we ever know? Will it affect the SP on 15th June 2006?

chiva - don't you mean wist-empty??


sd

Sd - yes apologies for the bow wow. Waiting for the optimum dip can often leave you wistempty.

sd

As I said, not really sure if it was a buy or sell. Good grief, must be bored to disect one trade. However, a sell trade of some sort certainly went though the system to knock the bid/offer down. All buys since then have been at a lower level, but steadily rising again.

pth

Rumours of an announcement at 2.30 pm today.

We shall see.

statesidestateside

From your broker Stateside?

What rollout ? What orders ?

Are they all doing 1 machine - sorry - thats done already ;-)

The MMs are playing this well - false drop - false bounce - helps to get those shares sold off quick - it worked today - expect the full range of MM tricks until they get all those 44M sold off.

They want to get them clear - they know interim reporting and massive loss is to be reported very soon - the lack of even 50 orders so far (1 only) is looking pathetic - and the longer it goes on people will become more of the opinion that this has problems and the problems are the reason why Asda have not yet taken more than just 1 machine - and most likely at a very reduced price - I see this "rollout" is being promised by malicious posters - another little ramp to try to get more people sucked in ?

IMO if you want to buy SE0 shares you should wait for the news to be real and massive orders have been placed - or wait until well after interim loss is reported - miss the bus ? Better to get the second one rather than lose the lot by betting on the first one that may never come IMO.

There is 1000 orders already in the price - and only 1 got - the bus left and is now in reverse coming back to try to find the other 999.

I see a definite trend of certain posters in absolute ramp mode - I hold half a million pounds and I am ok - RNS soon - Rollout soon

How about MMs have only dumped 20M of the 44M new shares so far and interim loss is coming - realities anyone - 1 order only - Asda seen to be not in any rush - problems maybe ? One years exclusive and then order tiny amounts ?

Sorry - I just feel it is looking very bad now.

I do see your point , but could you just answer me one question? where do you honestly see the SP one year from today ?

Heavy ramping normally means bad news is coming - quick pump up to get the best exit price ! Be careful !

jimmy - I do not know - honestly - it could be 4p - it could be 50p - depends if the ramp is true or not - if its all been hyped up - then 4p - if its all true - then 50p.

So in that case your saying if they get orders its onwards, to be fair your in the middle.

Notice the lack of "Holdings in Company" RNSs - now where are all those institutional holders ? ;-)

Food for thought. Being a lover of Salmon Fillets which i stopped buying from Sainsburys about 6 months ago because packaging looked terrible, and the fish always looked like it was sweating.
To me this was a Sainsbury product, typical buy one get one free. Today decided to look again out of interest and found a complete new packaging for the Salmon with a big label on saying a Youngs product.It has a complete new tray and appeared to be covered with a Vacuum pack? The whole product looked 90% better than it did before and leek free. Whereas the old product had a very poor tray and just sealed along the top which always seem to vulnerable to leaking. I thought this might be of interest to all. Maybe somebody in Packaging might comment

Yes jimmy - if I see they get more than 700 orders then onwards - if its just a trickle and struggle to get 100 or 200 then its down and out.

The Biotec deal if it goes ahead will certainly be bad news - it will not work IMO - these kind of things just do not work - loss making buys loss making in the HOPE of doing this and that - not good.

It would be better for SE0 if the deal was off and they kept the money.

holdings in company rns' only get declared if the holding is above 3%. like everyone , i think institutions want more orders. ii, i haven't seen the heavy ramping you speak of. could you point it out , please? stateside, what rumours? please try to keep rumour bollocks off this thread....good or bad.

jimmy
You know I don't talk to ii, but what I think he is saying is that FROGPACK, GREENSEAL, CRADLEWRAP doesn't exist and SEO didn't make an acquisition of Biotec.
When the truth comes out the sp is going to 4p, blimmy thats generous I would have thought the company would have gone under.

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST 11'S IN THE MIDDLE, I knew you.d come round in the end