Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

You always speak as if you are some celestial being Freda , and yet thinking back to a lot of your diatribe and verbal spewings it mostly works out to be total bullshit eh .

Vicky,

I alway had doubts in your ability to understand other than a very little.

Thinking must be difficult for you.

But keep on trying, you never know.

I'm always trying Freda , but I'm not as trying as you .

Anyway at least I use my VOTE , unlike some i could mention .

You mean you support a democratic government and its right to govern?

Compromise....good

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/dec/06/uk-wants-as-much-flexibility-as-possible-in-brexit-negotiating-position-says-hammond-politics-live

Rubbish, May has done nothing but capitulate....

WE'RE HEADING FOR A STITCH UP!!!......

Good!

There has to be some give..after all, labour have privy councillors, so will know lots of detail anyway.

The trick is, to get Art50 on the books, there is no way out then.

As labour are keen to know the details..fine, it don't matter if they disagree, they are signed up.

Excuses will make them look like snowflakes, and that would be the end of them.



This all assumes, May is on the level. (not proven)

It just opens the whole process up to more delays, more giving up of
the government's strategy and plans..The UK just should leave and then
start the negotiation's, otherwise we're going to have the gangsters in Brussels
dictating the whole show and to their timetable..

And when you have someone who is weak and keeps changing her mind, the
UK's going to be done up like a kipper..

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"Good!"


What an idiot, but what do you expect from a first generation muslim..

Fred really is like a child who smashes up his own toys ,then sits crying ,or as an adult just pure ignorant.

As i have said he just opposes everything on here for fun , he's not worth the time .

I don't understand why you continue to give Fred the time of day.
If you think we have problems in herding our lot in one direction, just wait until the EU tries to get a consensus from the remaining 27. The froggie said yesterday 6 months. More like never. There should be one plan only - a clean break and if we end up with some pleasant surprises take them as bonuses.

I'm with you iturama. What's the point in laying out a plan when the EU mouth pieces are already saying we are getting no concessions on the single market.

Just leave and let them explain to their own exporters why they are cutting off their noses to spite their faces.

Still have a few aces up our sleeve when it comes to defence , security and intelligence not to mention fishing rights so let them shoot themselves in the foot.

I'm expecting nothing from them so anything we get is a plus.

I agree ,also because i think there is more shock to come to the EU next year ,they just won't admit there is a problem .

Italian bank Monte Del Paschi shares rise on bailout hopes, I thought the bailing out of banks was prohibited in the Eurozone. Bet the Greeks won't be too happy if it goes ahead.
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Banks Euro - who cares?, we're better off out of this Euro-mess. There are too many drawing money out and too few propping it up.
As to Parliament's lackeys wanting "full details" they are bonking mad - until Art50 is triggered Euro negotiators will keep the hard-line . . . they won't want to weaken their position- why should they?
Our position can't be stated until several days into negotiation ( behind closed doors, for similar reasons). If 28 countries can't agree about anything, what makes the Remoaners think their stance is made perfect, whatever PM says is "our position" ?
However, it would be nice to think somewhere there're Knights waiting in the wings on white horses, who will come to the fore, just before the Negos start and cut a swathe through those Eurocrats.
They can practice their skills on the quaysides of Dover and then onto Parliament Green. The fallen Remoaners.... would never be missed.

Interesting comment from Bank chief... re Robots.
- If Robots steal our jobs.... Why do we need so many breeding-age imported folks?

No, I don't get that either.

If robots steal the jobs .. who will have the money to buy wot the robots make?


Will the robots pay tax to fund all the peeps on de dole?