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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

mentor - 05 May 2015 23:17 - 59653 of 81564

Pub must be rebuilt brick by brick, orders council, after developers tore it down to build flats

The owners of a historic London pub who triggered outrage by demolishing it without permission are to be ordered to rebuild it brick by brick.

Council chiefs will next week issue an unprecedented enforcement notice to the firm that owns the Carlton Tavern in Maida Vale requiring it to “recreate in facsimile the building as it stood immediately prior to its demolition”.

The owners, Tel Aviv-based developers CLTX Ltd, ordered bulldozers in to reduce the early 1920s building to rubble earlier this month after staff were told to stay at home for an inventory.

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The owners thought there was Palestinians living at the place... no laugh

MaxK - 05 May 2015 23:36 - 59654 of 81564

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Haystack - 06 May 2015 00:05 - 59655 of 81564

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/05/05/air-wars/

Labour campaign now seen as more negative than positive

hilary - 06 May 2015 07:41 - 59656 of 81564

hilary - 06 May 2015 07:44 - 59657 of 81564

The Sun had the largest circulation of any daily newspaper in the United Kingdom, but in late 2013 slipped to second largest Saturday newspaper behind the Daily Mail. It had an average daily circulation of 2.2 million copies in March 2014. Between July and December 2013 the paper had an average daily readership of approximately 5.5 million, with approximately 31% of those falling into the ABC1 demographic and 68% in the C2DE demographic. Approximately 41% of readers are women.

MaxK - 06 May 2015 08:13 - 59658 of 81564

Fred1new - 06 May 2015 08:19 - 59659 of 81564

A little little man defends his failures!


Fred1new - 06 May 2015 08:21 - 59660 of 81564

Instead of an abortion use a Cameron.

Fred1new - 06 May 2015 08:23 - 59661 of 81564

The hope for the blue rinsed and blue bottles of the Con Party.


Fred1new - 06 May 2015 08:30 - 59662 of 81564

I suppose Haze is down on his knees praying for the icon above. A true blue!

MaxK - 06 May 2015 08:33 - 59663 of 81564

ExecLine - 06 May 2015 09:37 - 59664 of 81564

What does the MoneyAM flock think to the following piece taken from this AM's Daily Mail?

The last time I laid in an NHS hospital bed for my night's sleep, the guy in the next bed kept me awake all night with his dementic shouting and raving. The middle aged elderly nurse wasn't brave enough to do anything about getting him sedated and help him and the rest of us get some sleep. One reason was, she didn't speak much English. The care 90% of the ward full of patients got was pretty good though, we all thought. That was apart from one lady who was moved in with us men and then fairly quickly moved out again.

The last time I spent a few nights in a private hospital, I thought the whole thing was a complete and utter rip off. eg. If you don't believe me, just do one tiny little bit of research and ascertain what the daily charge is for 'Dressings'.

My opinion is that there might well be a better way and which is a bit of a 'mid-way course' where you can pay something towards your hospital stay in an NHS hospital and get an improvement in what you get by way of a total experience.

I don't think the 'drag everyone DOWN' to the poorest common standards to ensure everyone gets the same level of hospital service is a good way to go. Hospitals could easily be made much more financially efficient, IMHO. All it needs is the will power to get it done.

Here's another question: If you were in A&E waiting for treatment and you saw a Cleaner go into a cupboard and get out a massive burns dressing, tear off its outer sterilised covering and then use that dressing to mop up a puddle of water from the floor, what would you do about it?

Private health a con - cardiologist
By PRESS ASSOCIATION

PUBLISHED: 09:04, 6 May 2015 | UPDATED: 09:04, 6 May 2015

Private healthcare is a "con" and NHS doctors who boost their incomes by carrying it out are depriving the public sector of a valuable resource, a cardiologist has said.

Writing in the British Medical Journal, John Dean suggested doctors be told to choose between the two rather than working on "both sides of the divide".

He said he became "increasingly uncomfortable" with working in private practice and decided it would be against his conscience to continue.

Cardiologist John Dean says private practice creates a perverse incentive for doctors to increase NHS waiting times

"No matter how high I set my own moral and ethical standards I could not escape the fact that I was involved in a business where the conduct of some was so venal it bordered on criminal - the greedy preying on the needy," he wrote.

Dr Dean, a consultant cardiologist at Royal Devon and Exeter NHS Foundation Trust Hospital, said working in private practice "has direct adverse effects on the NHS" by taking up doctors' time.

"The business of medicine and the practice of medicine are at odds," he went on.

"Private medicine encourages doctors to make decisions on the basis of profit rather than need. When confronted with a choice between two treatment pathways in equipoise - one that earns the doctor no money and the other with a fat fee attached - that conflict is stark.

"I cannot say, with hand on heart, that I have never chosen the second option."

Likening private healthcare to being swayed into buying expensive shampoo, he said the "promise is far greater than the reality".

"Private hospitals are like five star hotels, but for the most part they are no place to be if you are really sick."

He said the most pernicious aspect of private medical work is the indirect effect it has on a consultant's NHS practice.

"It is difficult to justify subjecting private patients to unnecessary tests and treatments if you avoid doing them to NHS patients. So you have to operate the same system in both wings of your practice to ease the stress of this cognitive dissonance."

Dr Dean said private practice creates a perverse incentive to increase your NHS waiting times - "after all, the longer they are, the more private practice will accrue".

The British Medical Association (BMA) said it was difficult to provide a clear figure for how many NHS doctors are also involved in private work as it is not officially recorded.

A spokesman said: "There should be no conflict of interest between NHS and private work, and this principle is contained in consultants' employment contracts.

"Consultants who want to do private work must first offer to do extra work for the NHS, ensuring NHS work is the priority."

cynic - 06 May 2015 10:12 - 59665 of 81564

i was much amused to see that yet another ukip candidate had to be chucked out on his ear - somewhere in hamshire - for threatening to shoot the asian/tory candidate

no wonder ukip is still so often seen as the refuge for the rabid

cynic - 06 May 2015 10:18 - 59666 of 81564

i am pretty sure that most consultants do at least their fair share of nhs work
however, anecdotal evidence is that at least some nhs hospitals are trying to coerce consultants to do registrar's work and at registrar's pay

i personally know of one consultant who has therefore decided to opt out of nhs work entirely, and who can blame him - apart from fred of course

Haystack - 06 May 2015 10:20 - 59667 of 81564

It is problem for a fast expanding party. It is not possible to vet the candidates as there is very little party machinery locally. The mainstream parties go through lengthy selection processes. With UKIP, it is probably a case of a passing stranger who agrees to stand. You are bound to attract the crazies.

Haystack - 06 May 2015 10:30 - 59668 of 81564

What has quickly become known as the “Ed Stone” has managed to make Neil Kinnock’s Sheffield Rally look shy and retiring,’ he said.

Experts said the limestone slab was likely to have cost tens of thousands of pounds, taken several weeks to produce and weigh in excess of one ton.

Steve Walley, managing director of London Stone, said: ‘That will not be cheap. It looks to me like Portland limestone. We’re talking thousands of pounds just for the materials. What’s he going to do with it if he doesn’t get into No 10?’

Ryan Jennings, a stonemason from North-West London, said: ‘You are looking at quite a lot. I would charge £30,000 for that. A limestone slab that big is expensive, and you’ve got a lot of work to do to it.

‘You’ve got to find a competent stone carver to get all the words done properly.

‘There are not a lot of good stonemasons around of that quality, and the best ones charge on a “sky’s the limit” basis.’

Labour aides refused to discuss the cost of the carving, where it is being stored or suggestions that it was the brainchild of one of Mr Miliband’s senior aides, Torsten Bell.

John Rentoul, Tony Blair’s biographer, said: ‘Ed Miliband must have agreed to it. I think it’s the most absurd, embarrassing, childish, silly, patronising, ridiculous gimmick I have ever seen.’

London Mayor Boris Johnson described the monument as ‘some weird Commie slab’.

MaxK - 06 May 2015 10:46 - 59669 of 81564

I'll bet it was on expenses.

Haystack - 06 May 2015 10:54 - 59670 of 81564

What will they do with it?

hilary - 06 May 2015 11:00 - 59671 of 81564

They could rewrite it - "The Epitaph To A Moron".
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