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The new talk to yourself thread (NTTY)     

aldwickk - 30 Apr 2012 13:01

Who would like to post first ?

aldwickk - 06 May 2012 10:48 - 6 of 77

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ellen-grace-jones/darwin-was-wrong_b_1475385.html



This week the University of Sheffield announced results of experiments which promulgate Darwin's 'survival of the fittest' theory. Scientists claim we humans continue to be subject to the forces and whims of natural selection like other species.

"We have shown advances have not challenged the fact that our species is still evolving just like all the other species 'in the wild,'" posited Dr Virpi Lummaa, from the University of Sheffield's department of animal and plant sciences. "It is a common misunderstanding that evolution took place a long time ago, and that to understand ourselves we must look back to the hunter-gatherer days of humans."

The study, however, was nebulous in terms of expressing precisely what 'evolutionary changes' they found from the church records of almost 6,000 Finns born between 1760 and 1849.

An interesting experiment and indeed correct in that we are still evolving, however to attribute it to the Victorian, matter-based, Darwinian model of evolution is backward-thinking and flawed given the recent leaps and bounds in metaphysical sciences and physical historical evidence disproving linear evolution. The ideology we randomly mutated from ocean slime to our knuckle-dragging neanderthal long-long lost cousins to our current incarnation is one that's been dogmatically accepted into mainstream evolutionary hegemony without challenge until recent years.

"If you take Darwinian theory, make a 'scientific' principal out of it, put it into political action, then you have something like Nazi Germany" states the pioneering Dr Bruce Lipton, author of Spontaneous Evolution. Lipton believes it's 'cooperation not competition' which are the hallmarks of most natural orders.

Speaking in context of the current human-related environmental destruction of the planet, "Much of this is related to the concept of us having arrived here as accident, when in fact it's the opposite, there was purpose and design in the process. The relevance is that when we bought into the Darwinian theory we bought into a way of life that's based on survival of the fittest, but the actual theory of evolution is survival of those that cooperate."

But if Darwin was wrong, that beardy fella on a cloud must have made us, right? Well, no.

The latest science suggests we are intelligently designed - not by some sentient humanistic being from on high - moreover a higher, energetic, source intelligence. Einstein's Unified Field theory equation was completed in 2007. The breakthrough proves everything: matter (which derives from energy, which is what we're made from) all natural laws and processes link to one underlying, unifying consciousness - aka, God, Source, Allah, Yaweh - pick your favourite.

According to John Hagelin, leading particle and quantum physicist, "Everything that's been discovered about the universe in modern science for the last 3 centuries can be systematically derived from the Unified Field's compact expression. The self interacting dynamics of unity at the basis of life's' diversity."

"The space between things isn't empty, it's full" claims maverick physicist Nassim Haramein whose groundbreaking expansion of the Unified Field theory is changing the face of physics as we know it. "We're bathing in energy which is the fundamental source of all creation. This was known by ancient civilisations but was lost due to the advancements of physics. My theories are starting to show the source of everything, all the material world, is mostly space. It's the medium that connects all things."

Quantum physicist Amit Goswami PhD supports the existence of a God consciousness, "The evidence for God is within us, but to see it we have to be subtle. To live it, we have to grow. Mystics, contrary to religionists, are always saying that reality is not two things - God and the world - but one thing, consciousness. The problem with science has always been that most scientists believe that science must be done within a different monastic framework, one based on the primacy of matter. Quantum physics showed us that we must change that myopic prejudice of scientists, otherwise we cannot comprehend quantum physics."

The problem with the Darwinian vs Creationist altercation is because it's so polarised. Atheists feel obliged to cling onto the Darwinian model because until now the only answer was a religious, faith-based one which they negate. Trouble is, in our logical, left-brain thinking society we view religious and ancient texts as literal rather than metaphorically encoded, hence their denunciation. For the sake of its remembrance, truth was often encrypted in fables, myths and legends. The highly-charged, energised space between things Haramein speaks of is what the ancients - and religious - call spirit.

One explicit way in which mankind is evolving for sure is in terms of our consciousness. From the Arab Spring, to #Occupy, to other measured dissent, there is a huge global shift and awakening to the corrupt, control system matrix we've been locked into for so long.

The Maya, who were acute astronomers, mathematicians and scientists knew this and their precise Long Count calendar not just tracked time, but evolution of consciousness. The much discussed end of it being December 21st 2012. Contrary to Hollywood fear-mongering, it doesn't connote the 'end of the world', moreover the transition into a more enlightened, evolved age.

Engineer and scientist Maurice Cotterell studied the Mayan cycles of human evolution and discovered they corresponded remarkably with his sunspot cycles of magnetic emissions. "Research was carried out confirming modulating magnetic fields caused genetic mutations in developing cells in test tubes." Begins Cotterell. "Here we have the mechanism whereby the sun's radiation affects the magnetic field of the earth then the magnetic field of the earth shuttles up the genes."

Everything is energy - including us. Life is the interaction of magnetic vibrational fields and our evolution is subject to the cosmos, not random selection. There have been peak sunspot emissions and coronal mass ejections in 2012 so it's little surprise humankind is awakening.

Unlike Darwin, the Maya, ancient Hindus and Hopi Indians recognised evolution/time as cyclical. There is overwhelming global, physical evidence that vast, advanced civilisations preceded us: the technology in which to create, many of today's engineers assert we do not possess.

Off the coast of Yonaguni Japan, India and Cuba there are giant sunken megalithic sites and pyramidal structures. In Bosnia Europe's first pyramid was discovered and dated to 10,000 years plus. Geologist Dr Robert Schoch has accurately dated the Sphinx to be 7-9,000BC - throwing our mainstream historical timeline into chaos and in need of serious re-writing.

Despite our spiritually-impotent, techno-worshipping race's arrogance that we're the height of all that's ever been, we are not actually the apex of human evolution, as Darwin's linear theory would have us believe. Primordial soup was never our ancestor. Dr Lummaa's archaic suggestion we should, "look back to the hunter-gatherer days of humans" to understand ourselves is dangerously reductionist. Yes the past can inform us, but by limiting our evolutionary learning using an old-world paradigm will only hinder progress. We can waste time searching for Darwin's 'missing link', but it will never be found.

aldwickk - 06 May 2012 10:53 - 7 of 77

Greekman

Cotto v Maywearther , Maywearther said Cotto was the toughest fight of his career.

And remember what Manny pac man did to Cotto

Fred1new - 06 May 2012 12:59 - 8 of 77

Phew.

Wrong pitch!

http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=8123#lastread

dreamcatcher - 06 May 2012 15:16 - 9 of 77

Fred this is a cameron free thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

greekman - 06 May 2012 16:17 - 10 of 77

For goodness sake Dreamcatcher, this thread was started because many were fed up of people replying to F**d, so please ignore him, or go to the other thread.
this thread is for serious debate or/and anything of genuine interest.

aldwickk - 06 May 2012 16:22 - 11 of 77

Anybody having trouble with AOL mail ? there is no send option now after composing mail, i know its been updated recently.

dreamcatcher - 06 May 2012 17:06 - 12 of 77

Not with you greekman ? Where is the reply to Fred? Sorry not standing for that .
If Fred wants to act like a child thats up to him. Did not need the goodness sake.

aldwickk - 06 May 2012 20:51 - 13 of 77

The trouble with my AOL mail was caused by a download

Harry6 - 06 May 2012 21:27 - 14 of 77

aldwickk - that is the worst pile of nonsensical drivel - perfectly refuted below.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/05/06/what-the-hell-is-this/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

required field - 06 May 2012 21:43 - 15 of 77

What's the point of this ?.....I shall stick with the old thread, no point.....for soccer please refer to the "what chances thread"....

aldwickk - 07 May 2012 12:31 - 16 of 77

Harry6

Am open minded about it , but I do agree with most of this :

The problem with the Darwinian vs Creationist altercation is because it's so polarised. Atheists feel obliged to cling onto the Darwinian model because until now the only answer was a religious, faith-based one which they negate. Trouble is, in our logical, left-brain thinking society we view religious and ancient texts as literal rather than metaphorically encoded, hence their denunciation. For the sake of its remembrance, truth was often encrypted in fables, myths and legends. The highly-charged, energised space between things Haramein speaks of is what the ancients - and religious - call spirit.

Even the Archbishop of Canterbury say the story of Adam & Eve is a fairy story , would you adam and eve it ... lol

Trouble is most Churches use mind control to various degrees , when that is used on the very young and adult's with personal issues it borders on brain washing.They will not listen , read or debate and just quote meaningless text from the Bible .

Ruthbaby - 07 May 2012 14:34 - 17 of 77

What an interesting thread!!!

greekman - 07 May 2012 16:28 - 18 of 77

Hi Dreamcatcher,

My apologies if my post came over a tad too personal.
I saw your post number 9 ,Fred this is a Cameron free thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so obviously thought you were replying to him.
I have had him squelched for ages, and have no interest in what he has to say, due to the fact he will argue that 'Black is White' just for the sake of it. Problem is that does make it partly guess work as to what referring posts mean.
I appreciate if others want to answer him it is entirely down to them. All I was asking is for people to either ignore him or answer him on the original thread as this thread was started as a 'No F**D area.
So because of that I wont mention him or refer to him again, but if anyone else does, that means he has won 'Again' and I will also leave this thread.

Once again, apologies for the 'Dig'.

Regards Greek.

dreamcatcher - 07 May 2012 17:03 - 19 of 77

Thanks greekman, I feel bad now. Very, very sad to think the individual has TAKEN
OVER one thread with constant conservative talk and seems hell bent on stirring
here. Lets forget this. I think a certain poster owes us both an apology ?
Thanks Greek.

aldwickk - 07 May 2012 18:18 - 20 of 77

I seem to have upset Goldfinger . The only thing i can say is what greekman said , that its sometimes difficult to follow post's when there are to many post's on filter.

goldfinger
Back to top. cant do with people nicking other peoples threads. That pratt cockney rebel does that over the road and leaves all non premium off, just so that he can have a monopoly on speech.

If you dont like someone or their comments, use the FILTER BUTTON.

Harry6 - 07 May 2012 22:20 - 21 of 77

ald - but you can't simply decide that this bit of the bible is literal and that bit is metaphorical every time a scientific fact emerges that disproves yet another part of it. Have a look at Richard Dawkins talking to George Coyne, he almost entirely refutes the whole of catholic doctrine and refers everything back to faith.

aldwickk - 07 May 2012 22:27 - 22 of 77

Harry -- isn't that updating the Bible ? I have a personnel interest , my wife is a member of what i think and what i have read is a cult Church , Google Pentecostal Missionary CHURCH OF CHRIST (4th Watch) , and tell me what think .



goldfinger - 08 May 2012 02:55 - 23 of 77

Why are you posters breaking away from the original thread?. You can use filter anytime you want . I dont accept that its not an effective tool. I think its down right rude to steal somebody elses idea and NOT even give an explanation.

If you think you have a discipline case, Ian should be contacted and then he and Bull Share should rule on it under the 2 yellows and red card system thats been in play since 2002.

To my knowledge its still in play, I myself have a yellow card awarded against me as I was being pestered by a former poster.

Use it I say and lets have some manners back please.

greekman - 08 May 2012 07:15 - 24 of 77

Hi Goldfinger,

For myself I would never put anyone on squelch just because they disagree with me or my views, in fact I have often enjoyed and learned from opposite opinion-ed posts as we all can learn from others.
I know that the filter system should can be used, but certain threads get taken over by certain posters, who even when squelched it is still impossible not so see the often 50% posters that still reply to them.
I do not want to squelch everyone who does continue the dialog with these people as often they do posts great posts to read. My gripe is that it is often not worth the time wading through all the dross replies to the person squelched, to find the worthwhile stuff.
The original thread used to be a great place to debate a multitude of issues until it was spoiled by mainly one person, and I hope this thread can get back to similar stuff.
As to explanation. I am sure most of us knew why this 'alternative thread was started', but I do take your point, it could have been explained.
If you still disagree with my views on this, we had better agree to differ.

Dreamcatcher,

No probs perhaps we both got it a bit wrong as you say.

EDITED at 0822hrs.

Goldfinger....Only just remembered that you started the original thread (have a few more grey days of late), so must add that I thought it was a great idea, and I still do. I am sure you started it with the wish that we could all post on any subject under the sun, and for a long while I thought this was the best thread on MoneyAm.
I am sure you feel as I do that it was spoiled by being hijacked by certain people for their own agenda.
I now appreciate more why you are annoyed.

Regards to both, Greek.

aldwickk - 08 May 2012 08:58 - 25 of 77

greekman and fellow poster's

Would you like to change the name of the thread to appease goldfinger ?
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