many aeons ago, there was a thread on here about making bread .... it died, perhaps because man shall not live by bread alone ..... anyway, there seem to be a fair number of people on this site who enjoy cooking, so i thought to start a thread for recipes and associated topics.

i'm assuredly no expert, but i reckon i cook tolerably well, and i know that any recipe i paste here, genuinely works - even for those who can only shop from supermarkets!

a starter recipe follows ......

Have you any recipies for salmon cynic - I usually just poach mine in either lemon, tarragon or sometimes white wine but would like something totally different.

hmm! .... nothing on immediate record, but i know from many many years ago there was a sort-of elizabethan recipe whereby you sandwiched 2 fillets with currants and some other things ..... i'll scratch the bald pate to see where i might look

From a BBC website -

Thai steamed salmon



A must for all recipe binders - this quick and easy, healthy steamed fish recipe is bursting with fresh flavour.

Ingredients
1 bunch coriander, washed

12 mint leaves

1 tsp chopped fresh ginger

3 cloves garlic, crushed

1 tsp salt

1 large red chilli, finely chopped

juice of 2 limes

1 tbsp nam pla (fish sauce)

2 x 175g/6oz salmon fillets

4 bok choi, cut in half lengthways

To serve
basmati rice, washed in cold water until the water runs clear

1 chilli, finely sliced

1 bunch coriander, roughly chopped

pinch salt

1 lime, cut into wedges

Preparation method
1.In a food processor blend together the coriander leaves and stalks, the mint leaves, ginger, garlic, salt, chilli, lime juice and fish sauce and process until smooth.

2.Place the salmon fillets in a shallow dish and pour over half of the sauce. Leave to marinate for 20 minutes.

3.Pour the rice into a pan of boiling water and cook according to the packet instructions.

4.Turn on the steamer and place the bok choi on the bottom layer. Place the marinated salmon fillets in the top half of the steamer and cook for 6- 8 minutes until the fish is just cooked and the bok choi is tender.

5.Drain the rice and stir through the sliced chilli and roughly chopped coriander. Season with salt and divide between serving plates.

6.Remove the salmon and bok choi from the steamer and arrange on top of the rice. Pour the reserved sauce over the salmon and serve immediately with a wedge of lime.

SALMON FILLET EN CROUTE WITH CURRANTS AND GINGER
i couldn't find the recipe from many years back, but herebelow is a version from Rick Stein which is assuredly similar.
For my taste, I reckon it needs more currants and ginger.

Serves 6
Ingredients
2 x 550g skinned salmon fillet
100g unsalted butter, softened
4 pieces stem ginger in syrup, well drained and finely diced
25g currants
½ tsp ground mace
750g chilled puff pastry
1 egg, beaten, to glaze
Salt and freshly ground black pepper


Method
Season the salmon fillet well with salt.
Mix the softened butter with the stem ginger, currants, mace, ½ tsp of salt and black pepper.
Spread the inner face of one salmon fillet evenly with the butter mixture and then lay the second fillet on top.

Cut the pastry in half and roll one piece on a lightly floured surface into a rectangle about 4cm bigger than the salmon all the way around - approximately 18 x 33cm.
Roll the second piece out into a rectangle 5cm larger than the first one all the way round.

Lay the smaller rectangle of pastry on a well-floured baking sheet and place the salmon in the centre.
Brush a wide band of beaten egg around the salmon and lay the second piece of pastry on top, taking care not to stretch it.
Press the pastry tightly around the outside of the salmon, trying to ensure that you have not trapped in too much air, and then press the edges together well.
Trim the edges of the pastry neatly to leave a 2.5cm band all the way around.

Brush this once more with egg.
Mark the edge with a fork and decorate the top with a fish scale effect by pressing an upturned teaspoon gently into the pastry, working in rows down the length of the parcel.

Chill for at least an hour.

Preheat the oven to 200C and put a large baking sheet in it to heat up.

Remove the salmon en croute from the fridge and brush it all over with beaten egg. Take the hot baking sheet out of the oven and carefully slide the salmon parcel onto it.
Return it to the oven and bake for 35-40 minutes.
Leave it to rest for 5 minutes.

Transfer the salmon to a warmed serving plate and take it to the table whole.
Cut it across into slices to serve.

Cooking lessons in school
it is one of those occasions when one would like to turn the clock back to when there were no ready-made meals and food was cooked at home and eaten round the table.

however, we now have a society where both parents are likely to work (leave unemployment out of the equation for now) and the whole ethos of family life is centred around ease and speed and convenience.

for all that, it is still very easy to eat well and cheaply, though assuredly made no simpler by supermarkets who do not stock cheaper cuts of meat (they'll say with some justification that they wouldn't sell).

but at the core, society is overwhelmed by parents/children who have been brought up to become "fussy eaters" on steaks, chops and roasts, with very limited if any cookery skills, and no understanding of how to stretch limited budgets.

A comment was made the other day by a politician who questioned why we eat ready meals instead of continuing to buy a sunday joint and making it stretch through the week, but of course people want convenience now rather than time preparing food.
I had a french MA student staying with me last year & she couldn't cook at all, so it's not just the english who lack cullinary skills!

there's certainly no o'night remedy, and indeed it has to take a least a generation to change ingrained attitudes and ignorance .....

however, it should not be forgotten that all supermarkets now stock tinned and very acceptable pulses and even "instant" rice and "fresh" pasta that takes only 3-5 minutes to cook ..... 20/40 years ago, pulses had to be soaked o'night and rice was considered "difficult" to cook well

thus, a number of important, basic building blocks are already in place ..... i wonder how difficult it would be for schools to teach children how to use these to make very simple but nourishing meals, rather than just concentrating on baking cakes and other "treats" with relatively little nutritional value

It used to take me ages to make a decent stock from the bones of whatever I had cooked. I hardly ever bother now except for the Christmas turkey; the stock in those little plastic pots is acceptable, though I wish they would let the consumers put their own salt in!

personally, i find turkey stock far too strong, but if you have a local butcher, i'm sure he'ld give you plenty of chicken bones (and wing tips etc) for free .... to make a batch of good strong chicken stock is easy-peasy, and it's something i always have in my tiddly freezer above the fridge

interesting that you'll happily buy supermarket stock at say £1.50 a small tub, whereas making your own, costs nothing apart from some gas ..... rather makes the point of earlier

It's called being lazy cynic!!

the days of learning to cook in school are long gone, health & S, won't allow children to use the ovens, not enough time to prepare and cook plus boy's aren't invited to do it at my local secondary school.,.

kim - that was self-apparent :-) but where families are tight for cash, they'll still be unnecessarily profligate, albeit through ignorance

bb - WsM - oh alright, north bristol - obviously doesn't get the news about cookery courses becoming mandatory once more in secondary schools

I'd ban BOGOF deals if I could!

Why not just make the product on offer cheaper? Drives me mad!

it's a ploy to encourage people to buy more than they need and thus keep hungry dustbins from begging!

supermarkets need BOGOF as they can force buying prices lower through bulk buying.

they would only buy more if they feel they can con the customer into buying more (unnecessarily)

braised beef cheeks recipe
it was my first effort at this, and i've now given the recipe a little tweak and it is now very much better

LAMB BREASTS
LAMB BREAST – à la Ste. Ménéhould

I have no idea who Sainte Ménéhould was, and even Google has drawn a blank. However, there is small, nondescript town in Marne of that name, so perhaps the idea of mustard and breadcrumbs was thought up there, though it is more usually associated with pigs’ trotters rather than breast of lamb.

Anyway, lamb breasts are ridiculously cheap and should cost you no more than £1.50 each and may even be free if you’re a good customer of your local butcher – don’t expect to find them in an English supermarket!

Yes, they are rather fatty, but that makes the meat all the more juicy, as lovers of lamb shoulder rather than far more expensive leg will already know. Nevertheless, with some gentle and very easy cooking, you’ll be amazed at how much meat is yielded and how many can be fed.

From 4 breasts, there was enough to make for 4 people:
A la Sainte Ménéhould - Very rich, so good as a starter or a light supper
Shepherd’s Pie
Stock - An excellent base for real Scotch Broth

In addition, there were enough bits and pieces to add texture and flavour to a Subzi Dalcha (ginger, split pea and vegetable curry).

The ingredient quantities will be the same for 2 breasts as for 4, though for 4 you will need a large casserole.

Ingredients in the order required
2 tbsp Vegetable oil
2 Medium onion – chopped
2 Large carrots – diced
2 Bulbs of garlic – cut in half horizontally
1 Small bunch fresh thyme or 2 tsp dried
3 Bay leaves
2-4 Lamb breasts
1 litre Cheap white wine
4 tbsp English mustard – ready-made is fine; I think Dijon lacks sufficient bite for this
100gm Breadcrumbs – homemade of course!


Preparation and initial cooking
Turn on the oven to 140 degC.
Heat the oil in the casserole, add the onions and carrots and cover.
Allow them to cook gently for 10/15 minutes, ensuring that they do not stick or colour.

Meanwhile, cut the lamb breasts into pieces that will just fit into your casserole.
Though there is some bone along one side, if you cut down between the ribs to that, you can then almost break it in two with your hands. Of course, you could always get the butcher to do it for you.

Once the onions and carrots are soft, add the halved garlic bulbs and herbs and a little salt and lay the lamb on top.
Pour over the wine.
Turn up the heat just to bring it all to the boil.

Make a good, tight seal to the casserole with two sheets of foil and then put the lid on top.
Put it into the oven and let it cook gently for perhaps 3 hours.
Check about half way through to ensure the liquid is not evaporating too much.
It shouldn’t do, but if necessary, add a bit of water.

Once cooked, the meat will be almost falling apart.
Lift the meat gently from the casserole and put on a serving dish to cool.

Once it is cool enough to handle, you’ll be able to pull out the bones and the cartilage bits easily enough – don’t let it get cold, or it’ll be impossible – but do it gently and carefully as you want the meat to be in as large pieces as possible.

While you’re about it, pull off and discard the bits of fat remaining.
Re-stack the meat on the serving dish in even piles.
It’s not strictly necessary, but the dish ultimately works even better if you place another plate on top and compress it with some weights.

Allow to cool and then put in the fridge (covered with clingfilm please!) and allow to chill for at least a few hours, though it’s actually be fine for a day or two.


Next Bit
By now, the meat should have set firmly.
Turn on the oven to 200 degC.
Lightly oil (merely to stop sticking) a shallow baking tray – you’ll want to be able to get the finished meat out without it falling apart.

Depending on how hungry you are – but do remember this is rich – sort out some nice large and thick (about 1cm) pieces.
Lay on a chopping board and give a good spread of mustard over the top.
Press the breadcrumbs in as you want to finish with a nice crispy crust.
With a sharp knife, cut the meat carefully into 2cm fingers and lay them on the baking tray.

They’ll probably take 15/20 minutes to heat through and for the top to turn crispy.


Serving
Plain boiled new potatoes will be fine, and certainly mash will be too rich, but you may prefer just good French bread.

A rocket and watercress salad with a sharp dressing will be just the thing to cut through the richness of the lamb.

Personally, I would drink a decent Chianti with several years bottle-age, but a Cotes du Rhone or even a Rioja will match well enough.

A slow cook to get the meat nice and tender. Lamb sounds better than the pigs trotter. I read a piece , from what you say above - the cook left the oven on by mistake over night with the pigs trotter in and it came out (I'm not a cook) is the word I'm looking for ''tender'' and soft.