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Traders Thread - Thursday 11th December (MT.)     

Crocodile - 10 Dec 2003 22:01

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U.S. stocks closed little changed Wednesday, recovering by the end of a choppy session in which investors continued to take profits. The Dow Jones closed down 1.56 at 9921.86, S&P down 1.13 and the Nasdaq down 3.67 all three had been much lower in the last hour of trading.

Water Utilities could rise after being permission to raise prices (United Utilities). Standard Chartered report at 8am. European car sales fall 1.5%

FTSE 100 reorganisation: IN British Airways & Hayes / Provident & Mitchells & Butler OUTMatalan <PROFIT WARNING> warned that its profit for the year to end February would fall well short of expectations after a slump in sales. The firm said its like-for-like sales tumbled seven percent in the 14 weeks to December 6. It said results for the year would depend on the critical Christmas trading period. "At this stage however, the board considers it unlikely that the shortfall in sales to date will be recovered in the remainder of the financial year. The board now expects that pre-tax profit for the year to 28th February 2004 will fall materially short of market expectations,"

MyTravel reported a pre-tax loss on ordinary activities for the year ended September 30 of 910.9 million pounds, from a 72.8 million pound loss the previous year. Analysts had been expecting a loss of about 600 million pounds.

Provident Financial which lends to people with poor credit history or low incomes, said it performed well and in line with its own expectations in the first 11 months of this year. United Utilities

Trinity Mirror publisher of the Daily Mirror said trading was in line with its expectations for the year, with weakness in advertising at its national newspapers offset by strength in regional titles. At its national titles, advertising revenues fell 5.7 percent in the period. Regional ad revenue climbed 3.9 percent.

Laird Group electronics said it expected its 2003 results before exceptional items and goodwill amortisation to be at the top end of market expectations.

Yule Catto & Co speciality chemicals company said its second-half results should meet forecasts. 

McAlpine said it had added 150 million pounds to its order book through contract wins.

Logica said trading in the second half of 2003 was in line with its expectations amid increasing confidence that key markets were stabilising. It expects IT services revenues in the second half to be similar to the first-half and anticipated margin in the business to improve to over eight percent from 6.5 percent in the first half.

Pearson publishing group said it had been chosen as the prime contractor for a seven-year, $200 million deal to develop and administer a students' exam programme.

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13.30 Nov Import Price Index m/m 0.2% exp. 13.30 Nov Advanced Retail Sales 0.6% exp. 13.30 Oct Business Inventories 0.2% exp. 13.30 Initial Jobless Claims (w/e 6/12) 355k exp. 19.00 Minutes of Oct 28th FOMC Meeting

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Crocodile - 11 Dec 2003 07:57 - 6 of 31

Profit warning Matalan, expected to lose 20% at the open

Druid2 - 11 Dec 2003 08:06 - 7 of 31

Morning TP. Thanks for the daily update. Let's hope EZJ & ETL recover a bit today.

Edit later = EZJ & ETL struggling atm.

Douggie - 11 Dec 2003 08:27 - 8 of 31

mornin all

Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 08:56 - 9 of 31

Morning all,

I think that MKS was unfairly hit by Matalan news.

They are both retailers but the business models are
different.

Took a punt on MKS at 271p. I like the way it held the
March lows whilst the Bears did their worst. There's not
many Bulls with profits to take at these levels so I
think that any further weakness will be Bear selling
that will need to be covered at some point.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 09:24 - 10 of 31

As posted yesterday, SBRY still coming down nicely
towards the bottom of the uptrend channel.

About another 5 to 6p to go and then I'll have to
try and judge market sentiment and make a decision
on whether to go with the bounce off the bottom
trendline or not.

Any other views welcome by the way, if anyone thinks
I'm missing something then shout up. These are only
views that we post here, not cast iron predictions.

Melnibone.

little woman - 11 Dec 2003 09:26 - 11 of 31

Morning all

The only shares I seem to be be doing well with are the ones I don't mention. (Mainly because I buy & then sell them on limit orders - always get far better prices than I ask, and I often don't even know they have happened!)

Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 10:25 - 12 of 31

Took the profit on MKS on that last bounce to 273p.
Will buy again if it drops back to 270p.

SBRY still coming down, still monitoring.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 10:30 - 13 of 31

That'll do me this morning, off to a good start.

Off to watch Tom Hougaard on the TA spot on Bloomberg
in 2 minutes and then start plastering my porch
ceiling.
See you all when the US opens.

Melnibone.

ThePlayboy - 11 Dec 2003 10:44 - 14 of 31

TH just stated 11900 dow in 6 months time! Must be the presidential cycle theory, also said ftse to 5500 by July and Dax to 4200!

Tradman - 11 Dec 2003 10:50 - 15 of 31

Can anyone tell me why BAY didn't go up when it entered the FTSE 100? Is the move up already built into the price?
Any thoughts appreciated.

bishopjeremy - 11 Dec 2003 10:51 - 16 of 31

didnt see TH's interview but I hope they're still giving him some stick about his call of a major correction in early October !

ThePlayboy - 11 Dec 2003 10:56 - 17 of 31

and May/June/July/Aug............

Hats off did call 10k when we were low 9k,s I think or even lower!

little woman - 11 Dec 2003 12:40 - 18 of 31

PIC got interesting a while ago - anyone got any ideas why?

Mole - 11 Dec 2003 12:46 - 19 of 31

Lot of buying in SKS this morning, tipped somewhere?

little woman - 11 Dec 2003 13:03 - 20 of 31

yes - SKS is mentioned in todays Shares Magazine as a likely takeover target by one of the major utilities

Mole - 11 Dec 2003 13:11 - 21 of 31

Cheers, Whatever they wrote must have gone down well with some relatively flush punters. Swapped my SKP for SKS this am, now watch the former rocket.

M.

stockbunny - 11 Dec 2003 13:13 - 22 of 31

Tradman - my instincts are that BAY has suffered unfairly from the
My Travel pantomine this morning same as MKS (no I am not amused at
the fall yesterday/today!) has suffered from the matalan one.
Little Woman - you must stick your head round the door in the tea-rooms
some time I'm getting out numbered in there (lol)

Tradman - 11 Dec 2003 13:59 - 23 of 31

stockbunny - Thanks for your comments. I'm sticking with BAY for a while. There's support at around 212 and if it drops below that them I'm out.

stockbunny - 11 Dec 2003 14:10 - 24 of 31

Tradman - BAY
I did the same a month or so ago - put a limit and sold out
once it was reached it (231p on the last up-run) although the
price rose again afterwards so didn't time it exactly right.
it's not a stable sector so hard to predict..
Good Luck!!

Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 14:40 - 25 of 31

Afternoon, porch done,that's enough physical labour for 1 day. :-)

Don't seem to have missed much, did the FTSE actually move in
the last 4 hours or has it been comatose.

Can't understand why it's down with everything else looking
good.
Perhaps it will bounce this afternoon and stop out some Bears.

Melnibone.
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