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RAMPERS     

ajren - 15 Jun 2004 09:39

MOTIVES ???
rgds aj

Andy - 15 Jun 2004 11:27 - 6 of 99

melnibone,

I think it's the latter!

ajren - 15 Jun 2004 11:50 - 7 of 99

Thanks but I knew what it meant.I was wondering if SueHelen,etc would post?
rgds aj

little woman - 15 Jun 2004 12:01 - 8 of 99

I must admit I try to avoid giving "tips". I will say what I'm up to, why I am
doing it/what I think - then its up to others to decide if they think its
crap, or perhaps my there is something behind my reasoning.

I've seen so many people start threads on this BB over the last 18 months,
initially many do well, but because the reality is they are "ramping" in time
anyone "joining the bandwagon" late will end out losing out and people start
going for the individual as the realisation that they are actually ramping the
share.

The sad thing is that the "individual" doing the ramping is often totally
unaware that is what they are doing, which is why they will deny it.

ajren - 15 Jun 2004 12:19 - 9 of 99

Hi littlewoman,

I NEVER saw you ramping i.e.I agree with your opening paragraph.

I disagree with your third paragraph i.e.I think he/she/it is usually well
aware of what they are doing and why they are doing it.I think ramping is
despicable as new investors can easily be influenced by the persausive
post/s to buy/sell and consequently often lose money.
rgds aj

Fundamentalist - 15 Jun 2004 12:31 - 10 of 99

Ultimately, ramping and deramping will go on on bulletin boards. Its far less on here than on other sites.

Personal view is that it is always up to the individual investing to do their own research and make their own decision whether to buy.

Like LW, I will post on shares I own or am looking to buy ,why I think the share price will increase based purely on my fundamental analysis of the company. If I see a tip/ramp post that catches my attention (rarely) I will still do my full research before making a decision and on that basis will always take full responsibility for my trades and will not blame another poster if the share goes down.

The posts I always ignore are those that make predictions but without backing them up with facts (see my earlier post for examples!!!)

ajren - 15 Jun 2004 12:50 - 11 of 99

I never saw you ramp.

I agree with your second sentence.However,many new investors consider this
board as being part of their research.
rgds aj

little woman - 15 Jun 2004 12:55 - 12 of 99

Ajren, perhaps I just don't like to think people are that ruthless. Although I
do agree what you say about new investors.

People often think that the "tip" is a type of "insider trader" tip, which of
course we all know never happens (:-)), but of course it is nothing of the
kind. Just someone who has invested in a share and wants everyone else to
join in. There may be additional motives, but unless someone admits to it, we
have to decide for ourselves what we should or should not believe or accept,
and some people will make the wrong decisions and learn the hard way.

ajren - 15 Jun 2004 13:07 - 13 of 99

littlewoman,

I would like to agree with you.However,some rampers on this board appear
to be totally ruthless.
rgds aj

Golddog - 15 Jun 2004 13:19 - 14 of 99

If you start a thread on a particular share it is not just ramping is it! You do it to see what other investors/traders thoughts are and how it compares to your own investing skills. It is also nice to feel that you are not the only one invested in a particular share and a good way to make friends with similar ideas. Yes you want other people to became interested in the stock and buy shares but you cannot always say it is ramping.

ajren - 15 Jun 2004 13:23 - 15 of 99

I do this myself and it certainly is not ramping.
rgds aj

Velocity - 15 Jun 2004 13:41 - 16 of 99

Anyone who takes a trade based on someone else's opinion gets what they deserve imho!

ajren - 15 Jun 2004 14:01 - 17 of 99

Rampers write very persausive posts so as to extract money from new investors.
They are ruthless.
rgds aj

hilary - 15 Jun 2004 14:05 - 18 of 99

Rampers are dreadful people .... scum of the earth. Hanging is too good for them. Anybody caught ramping should be forced to watch Tottenham play for a whole season as punishment.

thestatusquo - 15 Jun 2004 14:07 - 19 of 99

hilary,

Gooner agree with you on that one!

New threads started on a particular stock should be seen only as a starting point for thorough individual research.

It is obvious though, from the number of posts on particular threads, that a frenzy of interest can be brought about, and unrealistic expectations placed upon a stock. I'm afraid I can't see that situation change.

Certain posters on these boards also seem to have attracted a "cult" following. My thoughts are very simple in this regard; if these "hero" investors are so successful they should be very very rich by now, and if so, wouldn't be bothered posting on this board.

I think it is more likely that those that chase every new penny share put forward for discussion, simply win on some & lose on some.

TSQ.

Scripophilist - 15 Jun 2004 14:49 - 20 of 99

Rampers are dreadful, unless they own a stock I also own! :)

Velocity - 15 Jun 2004 14:55 - 21 of 99

TSQ?

thestatusquo - 15 Jun 2004 15:16 - 22 of 99

Ur question Velocity?

Velocity - 15 Jun 2004 15:27 - 23 of 99

Sorry mate, just twigged your initials - thought it was an abbreviated sign-off or something, doh, I'll go back to sleep now!

Haystack - 15 Jun 2004 15:39 - 24 of 99

Scrip...

LOL

I haven't found rampers much of a problem on AM so far.

It is worth reminding possible investors that people often have their own agenda and recommend stocks heavily (ramp) for their own benefit.

Believe very little of what is posted on BBs.

Scripophilist - 15 Jun 2004 15:47 - 25 of 99

Apart from what you or I say?
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