bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
insiderinside
- 15 Jun 2005 16:29
- 6005 of 27111
LOL - enough stock watching for the day for me - things to do - TTFN.
stockdog
- 15 Jun 2005 16:33
- 6006 of 27111
bos - you know I hate rumours - try to keep it clean on this thread. lol
sd
ptholden
- 15 Jun 2005 16:37
- 6007 of 27111
ss
just filter him. I have no interest whatsoever in what he posts, not because I do not like to read negatives, but because it is all cut and paste spin. He's a complete waste of time and a sad one at that.
pth
bosley
- 15 Jun 2005 16:50
- 6008 of 27111
couple of large t trades late on. don't know if there is any significance.
sd, sorry dawg, i guess i caught the rumour bug.
stockdog
- 15 Jun 2005 16:50
- 6009 of 27111
that's no way to talk about our beloved bos, pth! just for one silly rumour, surely!
ptholden
- 15 Jun 2005 16:53
- 6010 of 27111
LoL sd, I think I might have been talking about IIdiot.
pth
stockdog
- 15 Jun 2005 16:56
- 6011 of 27111
lol
Anyone notice the 1.25m total across 2 protected trades at 22.50 on closing - buys or sells do you think?
more blue to morrow, I guess - but the SP may stick for the rest of the week
bosley
- 15 Jun 2005 17:03
- 6012 of 27111
sd, it says they are buys on mam.
stateside
- 15 Jun 2005 17:16
- 6013 of 27111
From ii's days work on the ADVFN board:
Two further posts of his followed quite quickly after this one.
ii is wrong on most things. He is wrong to constantly de-ramp Stanelco. He is definitely wrong in suggesting that I am PM1.
Bulletin board threads will soon become obsolete as a way of following Stanelco.
The positive RNSs that will appear shortly will give the company greater media coverage
'insiderinside - 15 Jun'05 - 15:59 - 47101 of 47112
Interesting is it not - EVO write loads of very positive jam tomorrow reports - consistently wrong like their "we expect a stream of licenses in April 2005" - and now EVO seem able to sell loads of shares to buyers - where did they get those millions of shares from - has there been a placing at a low price recently ;-)
IMO this must be EVOs pay back IMO - if they average 2p gain on their buying price of those 44M new shares thats 44M x 0.02 = Profit of 880K pounds. Spread some around shares around (thats shows MM to MM trades - good for a ramp by some posters) to the other MMs so they can share in the profit of people buying into something that has no proven track record of acheiving anything other than loads of talk and no real revenue for the past three years and is based on "speculative" supposed savings - so its going to be party time at the brokers soon ;-)
What a wonderful money making dream Greenseal is turning out to be for the brokers and a nice fund raising theory for SE0 - those who got in below 20p are happy too - those in above 20p are either very unhappy or getting worried now.'
Another bad day's work from ii.
statesidestateside
Chiva20
- 15 Jun 2005 17:26
- 6014 of 27111
Water off a ducks back statesidestateside .. blue tomorrow, ignore the numpty.
paulmasterson1
- 15 Jun 2005 17:40
- 6015 of 27111
nm
paulmasterson1
- 15 Jun 2005 18:20
- 6016 of 27111
Hi All,
As I said yesterday ....
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paulmasterson1 - 14 Jun'05 - 17:56 - 5903 of 6014 edit
Hi All,
This is normal for Stanelco, down on a Mon+Tue, small tick up on Wed, back up to where it was at the start of the week on Thur+Fri !
It's been doing this pattern for most of the last 5 months too, the only times the pattern has changed, is on news, or press coverage/press rumours.
I hope they get the T buys out the way quick, then we will bounce easily :)
Cheers,
PM
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And today at the close we get TWO LARGE T TRADES 750,000 and 500,000 both buys IMVHO, plus an MM buy of 100,000 this morning all point to MM's dropping the price to fill T trades, same problem we had when we move up from the Fledgling Index, too many big buyers dictating the price to get a big cut of SEO, and MM's pushing small P.I's out with stop losses to fill the big orders.
I think there are still some T buys being filled, or the price would have taken off, with so much more volume bought than sold, we should be at 26p.
Lets hope they fill those orders soon, and we can get back to a more positive looking chart ....
Cheers,
PM
ptholden
- 15 Jun 2005 18:27
- 6017 of 27111
PM
Think you are wrong. EVO sat on the offer all day, knocking out stock at 22.62p for the majority of the afternoon. I believe thay have a stock overhang from the recent placement. Only when WINS joined them on the offer for the last 30 mins of trading did we see trades going through at 22.75p. Moral of the story - if you are buying, make sure your broker goes through EVO - cheaper stock!
We won't see a SP rise until EVO come off the offer.
pth
andysmith
- 15 Jun 2005 18:33
- 6018 of 27111
Bought mine this morning almost at the low as I thought anything <22p would be a bargain and I had to go out at 10.30am. As soon as the line of stock is cleared we should see 25p again very quickly. I am hoping for an RNS before my holiday but at the end of the day todays price will seem cheap this time next year.
bosley
- 15 Jun 2005 18:35
- 6019 of 27111
pth, please could you explain this bit .
"We won't see a SP rise until EVO come off the offer."
paulmasterson1
- 15 Jun 2005 18:50
- 6020 of 27111
PTH Hi,
I guess we will have to wait and see if any more T buys go through, the day the price goes back up 2p !
Strange how the T trades go through (1.25m worth) the day the price dips and recovers.
I watched this happen for the 3 weeks before we moved up the the Small Cap index, loads of price drops for no reason, and everytime the T buys cleared we moved back up.
Maybe EVO have got stock to clear, but all the other MM's would normally put pressure on them, and EVO would also try and stop any selling, and none of that is happening.
Not that I am that bothered, as I am keeping my stock for the 20 party :)
Cheers,
PM
ptholden
- 15 Jun 2005 19:05
- 6021 of 27111
Bos
It seems clear from the activity on L2 that EVO have a line of stock to clear, all of those 22.62p buys that went through without ever getting near the 22.75p quoted. The remaining MMs seemed content to remain on the Bid and leave EVO on their own.
This bit is speculation, but it does make sense.
The moment WINS joined EVO and shifted some stock at 22.75, other trades went through at 22.55p, these I assume were EVO trades offered at a further discount to the quoted Offer of 22.75. If other MMs join EVO on the Offer, and EVO want to move this 'overhang' the only way to ensure that they get the trades is to sell at a discount to the other MMs. If they raise the Offer to a higher level, they will find themselves competing with the other MMs. During the day there were a further three MMs sitting on an offer of 23p, so to have tried to sell at a better price would have meant greater competition and EVO would not have moved as much stock. Once EVO have shifted this stock they will come off the Offer and as long as there is still buying pressure we will see the Offer increase.
Hope all that makes sense BOS, happy to be corrected but I can think of no other reason as to the price stagnation today in view of the stream of buys.
pth
stockdog
- 15 Jun 2005 19:30
- 6022 of 27111
Let's hope the two large T trades were also EVO offers to help them clear their stock then.
Whilst I would find it hard to believe that all 9.3m of new shares had been placed with EVO, who knows they may have taken a large slice on condition they were given preferential position to sell them into the wider market ahead of other MMs - anyone know if deals like this happen - after all someone's got to do it - some of the placees were bound to be brokers/MMs not all long-term holders. Maybe EVO was the only broker/MM to be placed with new shares, the others all going to longer term homes - hence EVO's out on the offer till its line is cleared, making a respectable 6-7% turn on the 21.15p placing price.
Is there any way of finding out how much stock was placed with which parties in instances like this?
As I've said on another thread this evening, this may all be bollocks, but at least it's the dog's bollocks!
woof woof
sd
driver
- 15 Jun 2005 19:49
- 6023 of 27111
stateside and pm1
IMO If you keep quoting ii, your stuff mixed in, does not get read but skipped over.
I do any way, we are fed up disusing the prat on here, we have read his stuff, degust his stuff argued with him, ask him questions, talked about him, analyzed him, is he being paid is he not being paid?
I am only going to say this once I am absolutely pissed off with his absolute garbage and I couldnt care a fcuk what he has got to say or scoring points against him, he keeps coming back because you converse with him thats what he wants if you want to do that fine but keep it to your self.
paulmasterson1
- 15 Jun 2005 20:17
- 6024 of 27111
PTH Hi,
Good explanation :)
Cheers,
PM