goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Chris Carson
- 12 May 2015 10:44
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Stop your whinging: why the Left are such bad losers
By Bryony Gordon7:05AM BST 12 May 2015 Comments694 Comments
I’m pretty sure that the best moment of Ed Miliband’s election actually came shortly after he resigned, when he turned up at the Cenotaph to take part in the VE Day ceremony.
Here was a man who had just seen his career destroyed, a man who probably hadn’t slept for two days, and yet he still managed to put on a clean suit and make peace with his political enemy to pay tribute to the brave men and women who sacrificed their lives in the Second World War. The Sun called this moment "awkward", but I actually thought it was pretty awesome, a sign of all that is great about Britain and its traditions. It was just a shame that so many other members of the Left didn’t share his dignity in defeat.
Less than 24 hours later, anti-Tory protestors had desecrated the Women of World War Two memorial on Whitehall. “F*** Tory Scum” was the charming note left in red graffiti. Laurie Penny, a darling of the Left, tweeted that she didn’t have a problem with the vandalism – she argued that the real vandals were sitting in Downing Street, breaking up the welfare state.
Elsewhere on social media, Labour supporters spent much of Friday laying in to anyone who had voted Conservative. “Who are these ***** who voted Tory?” wrote one friend on Facebook. “To the selfish morons who voted for Cameron et al: I hope you are proud of yourselves,” wrote another. “I hope you enjoy your slightly lower taxes, you shameless, shameless human beings.”
Meanwhile, at the Baftas, a series of stinking rich actors in expensive frocks and suits lamented the return of the Tories before heading off to drink champagne at a lavish after party. And speaking of champagne, a picture of a man delivering a zillion crates of Moet to number 11 Downing Street started to go viral. “Tory austerity in all its glory” was the gist of the accompanying commentary.
Except the picture was taken in 2004, and the champagne was being delivered to Gordon Brown (anyone who has been to Downing Street in the last five years knows full well that they’re only allowed to serve wine that tastes like cat’s urine).
But the keyboard warriors didn’t have time to answer charges of hypocrisy. They were too busy bashing out angry tweets about the fact that only 37 per cent voted Tory, that a different voting system is needed – perhaps something similar to the one in place in, say, North Korea, that would only allow the British public to take part in the ballot if they happen to be left of centre.
Of course, proportional representation would still have given us a Tory government – just one in coalition with Ukip. Is that what the people marching on Westminster want?
And do they not remember the referendum for an alternative vote system four years ago, the one that the British public rejected out of hand? Have they forgotten the Labour victory of 2005, when the party only got 36 per cent of the vote? Where were the angry placards then? Where were the marches and protests and furious online campaigns for electoral reform? I’m guessing they were all buried under a massive pile of self-righteousness.
This caterwauling about the process being undemocratic is breathtaking in its glibness; it is the kind of thing that would get a politician lynched (and how unusual that the politicians have been more honourable in defeat than many of their supporters). Because the really undemocratic thing here is the process of trying to bully and silence people who happen to have opinions that differ from yours. It is screaming and shouting that everyone should use their democratic right to vote, and then boohooing when they use their democratic right to vote for a party you don’t happen to like.
I don’t think it is Tory voters who should feel shy and ashamed – it is Labour voters, and I write that as one of them. (Please don’t think badly of me; we have a very good Labour MP where I live in south London.)
Writing off 11.3 million people as nothing more than Tory scum is both insulting and arrogant. But then perhaps it is merely a symptom of the blinkers that social media has put on us.
When you live your life on Twitter and Facebook, and are only friends with like minded people on Twitter and Facebook, you are not living in the real world. You are living in a narcissistic echo chamber. No wonder it has come as such a surprise to so many that not everyone shares the same world view.
There is something profoundly cruel about vilifying a person for their democratic choices. When normal people become targets instead of politicians, something has gone very wrong. This then is the real politics of fear and hatred. It is espoused not by the Right, but the Left. And the people who are going to make the next five years truly unbearable are not the ones who make up the democratically elected government, but the ones who desecrate war memorials and spit bile at anyone who dares to think differently from them.
Fred1new
- 12 May 2015 14:04
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I see the shrivelled up old lady is back. I think she it wetting her knickers again and then getting them in a twist.
Happy days.
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Exec,
I am quite happy for you to squelch my posts.
But the cartoons represent opinions of many and possibly oppose the views of some with similar stances as yourself.
The present government "propaganda" reminds me of the Fascist propaganda of Germany in the 30s and "communist" propaganda Russia under Stalin and Yugoslavia under Tito, plus other authoritarian corrupt administrations. Used to keep a "leadership" in "power" for their own advantage, financial and materialistic benefit.
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Mind, I can understand how the present suggested "policies"appeal to the self centre, opportunistic, primitively driven groups in society.
The cartoons often point to those with underlying "political" motivations or similar sentiments and that is possibly why they upset your sensitivities.
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Hard Luck.
cynic
- 12 May 2015 14:19
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fred - you're supremely predictable and verbose, so like many or even most others here, i can rarely be bothered to read what you write ...... i don't squelch you, but pretty much skate past every one of your posts
Fred1new
- 12 May 2015 14:28
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Manuel.
Don't worry about it.
I would consider you to be of the same clan of pipsqueaks as haze, exec and the hilly one.
I do hope she changes her knickers soon!
Chris Carson
- 12 May 2015 14:40
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Red Fred keep it up and your "Gobshite Of The Year (recurring)" trophy is all yours once again. :0)
MaxK
- 12 May 2015 15:00
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cynic
- 12 May 2015 16:29
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is it like a lonsdale belt perhaps?
win it 3 times and then you can belt up!
Chris Carson
- 12 May 2015 16:58
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Lifetime Achievement Award!
MaxK
- 12 May 2015 18:10
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Haystack
- 12 May 2015 19:12
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And that is why the BBC will be severely punished.
Fred1new
- 12 May 2015 19:46
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A clone of Adolph has emerged!
aldwickk
- 12 May 2015 20:49
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Who's Adoph ? If you want to insult someone at least get the name right
MaxK
- 12 May 2015 22:10
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How dare you question the thoughts of Chairman Fred
TANKER
- 13 May 2015 09:16
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Calais migrants send them back home stop feeding them
we do not want them put the army in Calais and stop them
ever on of them want to come to the uk for the benefits they are scum
put them to sleep put them on planes and take them back home
simple as that
TANKER
- 13 May 2015 09:18
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destroy the camp leave nothing
TANKER
- 13 May 2015 09:21
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Italy and france putting on loads of buses to take the migrants to the borders and making them leave Italy then france do the same
we do not want any more we are full
unless those that want them should be made to put them in their homes lib shits
TANKER
- 13 May 2015 09:23
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aldi selling rotten meat
jimmy b
- 13 May 2015 09:24
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Cameron will be asked by the EU to take some of the migrants from the problem in the Med , why should we ??
Will the other EU countries take the masses that come in to Dover ??
Now is his chance to put the EU in it's place ....
Haystack
- 13 May 2015 09:25
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The Conservatives hae said that they will press ahead with plans to ban strikes unless 40 per cent of people vote in favour of industrial action in the government's first Queen's Speech. The government will also require turnout to reach at least 50 per cent of those entitled to vote for a strike to go ahead, and prioritise proposals to allow employers to hire agency staff to stand in. David Cameron is "determined to make the changes", his official spokesman said, as he pledged to stop commuters and parents on the school run from having their travel disrupted.