Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

the big question is why do they travel thousands of miles cross many borders
to get to the uk .

answer benefits they are lazy

Because the UKis the most successful EU country at present and offer most to immigrants. The people crossing the Med are heading for Germany and the UK.

hay so should we open the gates and tell all to come you dimwit

I didn't they should come here. I said they wanted to.

ROBOTICS
anyone know of any companies in this field with strong R&D?

Don't know anything about robotics c...but here's a NuLab droid who wants to rule the world, amongst assorted other right on droids.



Yvette Cooper announces Labour leadership bid

Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper has used an article in a left-leaning tabloid to announce that she is standing for the Labour leadership


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11604160/Yvette-Cooper-announces-Labour-leadership-bid.html

Once a condom always a con man.

lets get rid of human rights its only for criminals .the sooner the better
and give the police more powers to stop and search .
they can stop me any time no problem with that I have nothing to hide

for obvious reasons (except to MrT) a human rights act is unquestionably required in principle
however, without doubt it now needs amendment and/or clarification in certain areas, as of course is often true with much legislation

the most glaring example for us joes, is our inability to banish people from our shores who have committed serious crime or incited hatred ..... do we really need specific examples?

to my mind, perpetrators of such crimes should carry the full responsibility for their actions - eg i really don't care if they will get prosecuted or even persecuted once they are returned whence they came

whether or not one should be able to withdraw the protection granted by uk citizenship is much more tricky, and i think i would come down against that

cynic honest good people do not need human rights only criminals use them
the USA have no human rights they act on issues and deal with them
and we should do the same

you are factually wrong in virtually everything, but no matter

there is an argument that uk citizens are protected under the basic tenets of the magna carta and the uk's (unwritten) constitution

however, we now live a different world from 1215 and life and many other things are much more complex, so in my opinion and in that of probably the majority, we need something better defined and set out in law for the benefit of everyone

i certainly concur that we do not need some bunch of judges sat on their perch in brussels and strasbourg telling us what we can and should do in matters concerning uk only

And possibly a problem in itself..the Strasbourg clan, they are not even proper judges, they are political appointees.

Best out of that nest of vipers, if we are going to have human rights, lets at least slant it towards common sense.

thanks for that max, for i always assumed they were "proper" judges as in uk
that said, am i not correct that the higher echelons of judges in usa are also political appointees?

You might well be right c, but I don't think the yanks promote laymen to the high court.

good heavens!
do you mean to say that the strasbourg judges have not even been through the rigours and long experience of practicing at the bar or its equivalent?
if so, do you know that for a fact, or is it mere supposition based on some of the loony judgments we see?

of course, judges here too make some pretty weird decisions, for it is argued (correctly) that a judge's job is to interpret and not to make the law

maxk. you are correct jobs for the blue eyed boys club fact

TIM FARRON does this idiot talking about human rights not understand the voters
did not want their stupid policies

We are getting rid of the Human Rights Act and introducing a UK Bill of Rights with the same details. The difference is that appeals will stop at our Supreme Court and not the European Court of Human Rights. Tanker is going to be disappointed as we will have more or less the same legislation.

Hopefully, the supreme court will take into account the victims side of the crime.

Too often the victim seems to be forgotton in the race to defend the wrongdoers human rights.


Take murderers and rapist who cannot be deported because it would upset their family life.....but who is looking out for the victims family life?

as i wrote in 60122 (qv)