goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
jimmy b
- 15 May 2015 11:25
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We need TANKER as our radical !!
cynic
- 15 May 2015 11:26
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you've got fred
isn't that more than enough?
2517GEORGE
- 15 May 2015 11:31
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Fred's more than enough as evidenced by those squelching him, and he's too biased.
2517
TANKER
- 15 May 2015 11:50
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CYNIC YOU ARE THICK IMMIGRANT .
THE POINT OF THE POST IS SIMPLE HOW CAM 1.1 M VOTES GET 57 MPS
AND 3.9M VOTES GETS 1 MP
THE SYSTEM STINKS AND IT IS WORTHLESS TO VOTE IN ENGLAND
NO WONDER VOTERS DO NOT BOTHER BETTER TO RIOT ON THE STREETS FOR ACTION
YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE A CHILD OF IMMIGRANT RUNNING AWAY WITH A WHITE FLAG WHO DITCHED THEIR COUNTRY IN ITS HOUR OF NEED
I WOULD NEVER MY FATHER DIED FOR NOTHING SAVING PEOPLE NOT WOTH SAVING
TANKER
- 15 May 2015 11:56
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So if a party won 100 per cent of votes in the UK's largest constituency but fell into second place in multiple other constituencies, it would take just one parliamentary seat. Another party could have far fewer votes overall but take more seats simply because it was marginally the most popular party in a number of very small constituencies.
All the results for the 650 seats are now in, and the Tories are firmly in power with a 51 per cent majority. If you considered just the number of votes they received, they would still have won, but Labour would be much closer behind. The charts below show how for the Conservatives, just 36.9 per cent of votes translated into 51 per cent of seats. By contrast, Labour's 30.5 per cent of votes translated into the much more similar figure of 36 per cent seats.
But of all the parties, it is SNP that has benefited most from this disparity - the party's 4.7 per cent of votes meant it ended up with almost double that percentage of parliamentary seats.
Ukip is the biggest loser under the current system, since it has won just one parliamentary seat despite winning the third highest number of votes overall. Nigel Farage stepped down as leader of the party after losing to the Conservative candidate in Thanet South.
TANKER
- 15 May 2015 12:05
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con 36.9
lab 30.5
ukip 12.6
lib 7.8
snp 4.7
green 3.8
what a rotten system yet the gov would not except this result as a yes vote in strike action
TANKER
- 15 May 2015 12:13
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put it another way lib green ukip got
24.2% of the vote and got 10 seats their is something very wrong
and snp get 57 seats for 4.7%
Fred1new
- 15 May 2015 12:45
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Exec and JB,
It is good that you stand for you own freedom to post what you feel appropriate , but at the same time not allow others the same right!
Interesting trait.
One step up from Tinker.
jimmy b
- 15 May 2015 12:51
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Fred , how often do you post ? it's constant ! the elections over ,lighten up a bit ,you'd have more fun ...
Haystack
- 15 May 2015 13:32
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Our voting system stops the crazies and the bigots getting anywhere
TANKER
- 15 May 2015 14:26
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cynic thinks he is the only one to have views and ever one else does not have the right to them
cynic if can not take it try not trying to give it out
cynic
- 15 May 2015 14:36
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MrT - i have no problem at all with others having a poke at me just as i have no problem with sticking my head above the parapet
i understand the argument against first past the post, but it also has its merits and has certainly withstood the test of time
although pr works well enough in some countries, i look at the disaster pertains in israel and shudder
TANKER
- 15 May 2015 14:43
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cynic I am a person who likes honesty
the system is now out of date times have changed
the voting system must be changed or it will not be worth voting
that is why 40% do not bother now I am thinking the same
I had hell of job to tell my children to start voting now think they are correct
pointless
TANKER
- 15 May 2015 14:44
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4 million voters now with one mp so they have no one to ask questions
Fred1new
- 15 May 2015 14:49
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JB,
Perhaps, you find my posting provoke you to much and run contra to your held views or beliefs.
So be it!
Try, the squelch button.
I won't feel any pain!
cynic
- 15 May 2015 15:19
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cynic
- 15 May 2015 15:19
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certainly the idea of PR raises its head regular intervals, but it never cuts much ice in this country ....
mind you, that's probably because it's not really in the interest of those in power
that said, there does not seem to be much if any noise for change from the public at large either
TANKER
- 15 May 2015 15:32
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millions will disagree with that and I speak to loads at the club and they all want change .
our conservative got in by us switching our vote if we had voted ukip lab would have won
cynic
- 15 May 2015 15:38
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If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas