Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Here you go this should lighten you up ..

Our voting system stops the crazies and the bigots getting anywhere

cynic thinks he is the only one to have views and ever one else does not have the right to them
cynic if can not take it try not trying to give it out

MrT - i have no problem at all with others having a poke at me just as i have no problem with sticking my head above the parapet

i understand the argument against first past the post, but it also has its merits and has certainly withstood the test of time

although pr works well enough in some countries, i look at the disaster pertains in israel and shudder

cynic I am a person who likes honesty
the system is now out of date times have changed
the voting system must be changed or it will not be worth voting
that is why 40% do not bother now I am thinking the same
I had hell of job to tell my children to start voting now think they are correct
pointless

4 million voters now with one mp so they have no one to ask questions

JB,

Perhaps, you find my posting provoke you to much and run contra to your held views or beliefs.

So be it!

Try, the squelch button.

I won't feel any pain!

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certainly the idea of PR raises its head regular intervals, but it never cuts much ice in this country ....
mind you, that's probably because it's not really in the interest of those in power

that said, there does not seem to be much if any noise for change from the public at large either

millions will disagree with that and I speak to loads at the club and they all want change .
our conservative got in by us switching our vote if we had voted ukip lab would have won

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas

You did the sensible thing T.
2517

On QT last night, one good suggestion was to raise the importance of the top two votes per voting slip.

In other words, instead of voting for one election candidate, you vote for two.

I suppose such a suggestion is dead in the water because it would be taken to mean that we have double the number of MPs, when what everyone wants is to halve the number of MPs, not double them!

But it is really what is wanted and that is a voting slip where two votes count and not just one.

So how could such a thing be made to work?

Ans:

1. Boundary changes.
2. Double the number of punters who are represented per territory.
3. Have two representaives per territory.

Simples.

Please send the money to me for this amazing suggestion, via MoneyAM. But do send it quickly because at the present level of web site performance, I don't think they are going to be around for all that much longer.

We had a vote on voting reform and it was rejected by the public and it will stay that way for the foreseeable future. The public wants strong government and not coalitions. It is part of the reason that Burlesconi was popular. Coalitions never pass any significant legislation as it is always watered down. Coalition means compromise and often the weakest partner gets to control the agenda. As cynic says, just look at Israel where the very right wing religious parties control policy even though in theory they are junior partners. Hopefully, we will keep our voting system.

Yes I have noticed the similarity between Berlusconi and Cameron. Similar sort of henchmen!

Genuine, or are the skeletons rattling in the cupboard?




Chuka Umunna withdraws from Labour leadership contest


Shadow business secretary says he found pressure of candidacy uncomfortable and was concerned about impact on family and friends





Chuka Umunna, the shadow business secretary, has withdrawn from the Labour leadership contest, citing the impact the increased level of attention would have on him and those close to him.

In a statement, Umunna said he thought he understood the level of scrutiny and attention the leadership contest would bring, but that he had found it uncomfortable.


Rolling coverage of all today’s political developments as they happen, including turmoil in Ukip and the latest from the Labour leadership contest



“As a member of the shadow cabinet, I am used to a level of attention which is part and parcel of the job. I witnessed the 2010 leadership election process close up and thought I would be comfortable with what it involved,” he said.

“However since the night of our defeat last week I have been subject to the added level of pressure that comes with being a leadership candidate. I have not found it to be a comfortable experience.

“One can imagine what running for leader can be like, understand its demands and the attention but nothing compares to actually doing it and the impact on the rest of one’s life. Consequently after further reflection I am withdrawing my candidacy.”



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/15/chuka-umunna-withdraws-from-labour-leadership-contest

a fair comment on the wireless was that he was shadow biz secretary but then blamed the leadership for "failing to reach out to business"
enough said?

Yvette Cooper was the former JCR President of my son's old college. Over three years ago now, he said she would be the next Labour leader.

He might be right.

Good i can't stand the jumped up little ponce !!!

Oh dear...


Yvette Cooper


Chief Secretary to the Treasury 24 January 2008 – 5 June 2009