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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

TANKER - 15 May 2015 14:43 - 60168 of 81564

cynic I am a person who likes honesty
the system is now out of date times have changed
the voting system must be changed or it will not be worth voting
that is why 40% do not bother now I am thinking the same
I had hell of job to tell my children to start voting now think they are correct
pointless

TANKER - 15 May 2015 14:44 - 60169 of 81564

4 million voters now with one mp so they have no one to ask questions

Fred1new - 15 May 2015 14:49 - 60170 of 81564

JB,

Perhaps, you find my posting provoke you to much and run contra to your held views or beliefs.

So be it!

Try, the squelch button.

I won't feel any pain!

cynic - 15 May 2015 15:19 - 60171 of 81564

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cynic - 15 May 2015 15:19 - 60172 of 81564

certainly the idea of PR raises its head regular intervals, but it never cuts much ice in this country ....
mind you, that's probably because it's not really in the interest of those in power

that said, there does not seem to be much if any noise for change from the public at large either

TANKER - 15 May 2015 15:32 - 60173 of 81564

millions will disagree with that and I speak to loads at the club and they all want change .
our conservative got in by us switching our vote if we had voted ukip lab would have won

cynic - 15 May 2015 15:38 - 60174 of 81564

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas

2517GEORGE - 15 May 2015 16:03 - 60175 of 81564

You did the sensible thing T.
2517

ExecLine - 15 May 2015 16:52 - 60176 of 81564

On QT last night, one good suggestion was to raise the importance of the top two votes per voting slip.

In other words, instead of voting for one election candidate, you vote for two.

I suppose such a suggestion is dead in the water because it would be taken to mean that we have double the number of MPs, when what everyone wants is to halve the number of MPs, not double them!

But it is really what is wanted and that is a voting slip where two votes count and not just one.

So how could such a thing be made to work?

Ans:

1. Boundary changes.
2. Double the number of punters who are represented per territory.
3. Have two representaives per territory.

Simples.

Please send the money to me for this amazing suggestion, via MoneyAM. But do send it quickly because at the present level of web site performance, I don't think they are going to be around for all that much longer.

Haystack - 15 May 2015 17:02 - 60177 of 81564

We had a vote on voting reform and it was rejected by the public and it will stay that way for the foreseeable future. The public wants strong government and not coalitions. It is part of the reason that Burlesconi was popular. Coalitions never pass any significant legislation as it is always watered down. Coalition means compromise and often the weakest partner gets to control the agenda. As cynic says, just look at Israel where the very right wing religious parties control policy even though in theory they are junior partners. Hopefully, we will keep our voting system.

Fred1new - 15 May 2015 17:54 - 60178 of 81564

Yes I have noticed the similarity between Berlusconi and Cameron. Similar sort of henchmen!

MaxK - 15 May 2015 18:09 - 60179 of 81564

Genuine, or are the skeletons rattling in the cupboard?




Chuka Umunna withdraws from Labour leadership contest


Shadow business secretary says he found pressure of candidacy uncomfortable and was concerned about impact on family and friends





Chuka Umunna, the shadow business secretary, has withdrawn from the Labour leadership contest, citing the impact the increased level of attention would have on him and those close to him.

In a statement, Umunna said he thought he understood the level of scrutiny and attention the leadership contest would bring, but that he had found it uncomfortable.


Rolling coverage of all today’s political developments as they happen, including turmoil in Ukip and the latest from the Labour leadership contest



“As a member of the shadow cabinet, I am used to a level of attention which is part and parcel of the job. I witnessed the 2010 leadership election process close up and thought I would be comfortable with what it involved,” he said.

“However since the night of our defeat last week I have been subject to the added level of pressure that comes with being a leadership candidate. I have not found it to be a comfortable experience.

“One can imagine what running for leader can be like, understand its demands and the attention but nothing compares to actually doing it and the impact on the rest of one’s life. Consequently after further reflection I am withdrawing my candidacy.”



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/15/chuka-umunna-withdraws-from-labour-leadership-contest

cynic - 15 May 2015 18:28 - 60180 of 81564

a fair comment on the wireless was that he was shadow biz secretary but then blamed the leadership for "failing to reach out to business"
enough said?

hilary - 15 May 2015 18:36 - 60181 of 81564

Yvette Cooper was the former JCR President of my son's old college. Over three years ago now, he said she would be the next Labour leader.

He might be right.

jimmy b - 15 May 2015 18:36 - 60182 of 81564

Good i can't stand the jumped up little ponce !!!

MaxK - 15 May 2015 19:04 - 60183 of 81564

Oh dear...


Yvette Cooper


Chief Secretary to the Treasury 24 January 2008 – 5 June 2009

hilary - 15 May 2015 19:10 - 60184 of 81564

Tarred with the same brush as Dick Ed II....

MaxK - 15 May 2015 19:12 - 60185 of 81564

From the same stable ... never done a job outside the westminster bubble.

And she's jock.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvette_Cooper

Haystack - 15 May 2015 19:20 - 60186 of 81564

Yvette Cooper

Chief Secretary to the Treasury 24 January 2008 – 5 June 2009

Funny how she is in denial now!


Yvette Cooper: Labour didn't spend too much before the crash

Labour leadership contender denies that the party spent too much ahead of the financial crisis

Yvette Cooper has denied that Labour spent too much in the run-up to the financial crisis, as she launched her campaign to be the party’s leader.

The shadow home secretary sided with defeated leader Ed Miliband by refusing to accept that the last Labour administration should have reined in public expenditure.

Liz Kendall, a Blairite who was first to enter the Labour leadership race, on Wednesday admitted that spending levels were too high in the Blair and Brown years.

"I think that we were spending too much before the crash,” she told BBC Newsnight.

But asked on Thursday whether she agreed with Ms Kendall’s comments, Ms Cooper responded: “No.”

Haystack - 15 May 2015 22:29 - 60187 of 81564

An early vote is expected at Westminster to overturn the hunting ban.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hunting-ban-set-to-be-repealed-within-12-months-with-early-commons-vote-expected-10254419.html
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