Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

He fought like a mouse to get us diddley squat, and succeeded.
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Ivan

Adios
Auf Weidersehen
Au Revoir

Goodbye if your interested in the British term.

Or just F.O is quite appropriate to a weak brainwashed europhiliac brown
noser...

"Ivan, you are looking a bit scruffy and so, after doing your Bresignation, do up your tie and give your hair a bit of a comb."

Andrea Leadsom says, that after Brexit:

1. The '90,000 Seasonal EU Berry Pickers' will still be able to come over and help our farmers.
2. The farmers will still be OK for getting the temporary seasonal staff from the EU as before and as above.
3. Our 40,000 farmers will be able to grow what they want and won't have to abide by the EU rule which says they must go at least 3 Crops per year.
4. Neither will the farmers have to display billboards showing they get EU subsidy.

She reminds how dealing with Brussels "red tape" and farm inspections is estimated to cost £5 million a year to the industry and takes up 300,000 hours, as she declared slashing EU regulations will free up farmers to grow more food.

Unfortunately, she does get slammed for her comments being a bit ill-considered and too much like head-lines.

More at: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/750115/Brexit-Environment-Secretary-Andrea-Leadsom-UK-farmers-EU-migrant-labour-seasonal-workers

Was that "headlines" or "head lice", or just bees in the bonnet?

Is that shot of Dave with Ivan the terrible a Madam Tussauds dummy they pulled out the back of no 10 there . A bit too lifelike for me too much makeup to cover his blushes maybe . 6021

re - Ivan - resigned

Anyway he was useless before on not getting a better deal
so on losing the vote, there was " No Heart " on any future negotiations on his part.

Good riddance

~Yes.

He should have taken a Kalashnikov with him when he negotiated with Cameron.


He would have shown Europe he was a tough negotiated and didn't take no for an answer.

You have to take tanks to Europe for the Brexit War to TELL Europe what they have to agree to.

Show them who is boss.

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LOL

Or better than that, send Boris and IDS in the underpants, so they can have a laugh.

little fred 6031, you seem to have the same mindset as those murderers in the
Charlie Hebdo massacre and the recent attack on the night club in Turkey plus
the many other atrocities carried out..

You're not one of those from the religion of peace are you?!!!...

Fred , the only thing they need to know is that we are leaving and will no longer be abiding by their crappy rules and regulations.

They want a deal that's up to them.

Hardly need a brain surgeon to get that message across.

I don't recollect there being this much fuss when the EU was stripping us of the powers that we now want returned.
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Dil,

Apply for the Tim Barrow's job when it comes up.

The UK sorely needs somebody with your negotiating skills.

PS, take GB to Brussels with you and leave him there.

i know it sounds rather supercilious, for which i apologise, but a number of you on here are either incredibly naive or blinkered or wear rose-tinted specs or any combination of same

nothing but nothing can or will be speedy, let alone straightforward and simple in breaking (to a greater or lesser degree) with EU nor in setting up separate and/or new trade deals in the rest of the world

Manuel,

I would never make the first remark regading you.

(I would just choose different words. (8-) )

But I agree with you second comment.

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(Sometimes I wish we hadn't banned one of the words you used frequently in the past.)

We know that C ( you do sound supercillious and Brexit could be protracted) and the EU will not help. It can't help itself. IMO, a clean break with little or no negotiation, will not be a hard Brexit, but an easy Brexit. There is no point in even trying to deal with the tower of Babel when just one Belgian district can stymie an agreement for years. Let that come later, at our timing, when the European Disunion comes to realise the consequences of playing games with one of the largest European economies. The ED as we know it is likely to fall apart anyway in the meantime. Meanwhile continue trading under WTO rules.

Well said iturama.

It's the remoaners who are living in cloud cuckoo land and demanding we negotiate this that and the bloody other on things we have no control over.

What will be delivered is no freedom of movement and no more European Court of Injustice.

huff and puff as much as you like, but brexit negotiations will prove to be protracted
it is an opiate fantasy to imagine that there will be a guillotine on the relationship with eu coupled to a magic wand of trade deals across the rest of the world