Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Manuel,

Go back to the Thatcher period and the attempt of "privatisation", re-organisation, and change of "financing" of the Universities with their change of contracts etc..

Attempt at restructure of NHS without paying for it, and failing to replace worn out "infrastructure".

That, in a similar way applied to "education" in general. (PFIs introduced initially in that period.)

This is when part of the problems originated from and much of change of mood in universities, education and public services in general.

In any organisation changes of probably always necessary, but they have to be fully thought out and probably tested out on pilot schemes.

Not as rushes of blood to the head by short sighted politicians.

but i do not hear you telling us all what labour did to correct any of this
perhaps they did nothing and/or did more of the same making it all an even greater mess

Perhaps they built the necessary infrastructure.

But they also tried restructuring services or staffing without consideration and sufficient trials of pilot test out of repercussions of changes.

But this tory coalition government was lead by political and economic ideology and the present con party from its murmurings is going to do the same again.

One can only guess at the consequences.

Inside the Milibunker: the last days of Ed

The Labour leader's court kept its fantasy alive right to the end


Dan Hodges 16 May 2015






Ed Miliband was writing his victory speech on election night when the nation’s broadcasters announced the exit poll. He remained convinced — as he had been all along — that he was destined for No.10. In his defence, most people in Westminster thought the same. But within his ranks, a rebellion had already broken out. At 2 p.m. that afternoon, a member of his shadow cabinet had resigned — fearing not defeat, but the debacle that would follow Miliband’s success.


‘I was being briefed by Ed’s team about their post-election plans,’ the shadow minister told me. ‘It was nuts. They were explaining how there would be “no concessions”, no “tacking towards the centre”, nothing. The way the campaign had been run, the way his operation had been run, that would be the template for government. The whole Zen Labour thing. In the end, I lost it. I said to them, “Well, if that’s the way you’re going to do things, here’s where I get off’’.’

True to his word, Miliband stayed in his Zen-like state to the end. As one insider put it: ‘When he was working on his victory speech with Greg Beales [his speech writer] the exit poll was announced. They stopped, and someone came in and said, “Don’t worry, that poll’s wrong.” So they carried on writing.’

This is a tale of Labour’s downfall: the inside story of the party’s most catastrophic election campaign since the war. It’s a story of chaos, dysfunction and hubris.



The rest of the article is well worth a read:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9528312/inside-the-milibunker-the-last-days-of-ed-did-ed-miliband-sacrifice-ed-balls/

fred - nothing surprising i guess but STILL you do not say what 13 years of labour did to redress the alleged damage you say was done by MrsT et al

i don't recollect labour reversing anything, not even (anti) union legislation, but perhaps i've missed something

Manuel.

Suggest you reread your recent postings and assertions and then re-read mine.

As you say, you probably missing something and it would be better for all if you go back to waiting at table.

certainly more enjoyable and profitable than wading through your junk

PS.

Have a look at the schools and hospitals built under Maggie's period of disaster and labours period. Also look at the decline in the infrastructure over the last 5 years.

have a look at labour's own profligacy and tell us about how empty the coffers were when labour were kicked out into the street

when you've worked that out, tell us how you would have paid for a shedload of new infrastructure etc etc without pushing the country to the dire levels of greece, italy and even france

Lets not let facts get in the way of a good rant c!

Well when you have your heart attack, I hope there is a bed in the annex next to the morgue for you.

That the scanners and labs have been sold off to pay the debts.

The nurses and doctors are part timer agency staff and the paramedics are considering whether to walk out or not. Perhaps, emigrate to France or Germany or the "colonies".

fred - especially as you refuse to vote, you have got the gov't you deserve

though you have a right to whinge as much as not to vote, your posts might carry more or even some weight if you were not so prejudiced and entrenched in your views

every single post of yours is so left-wing biased and thus losing most merit that there might be
you never ever let yourself consider (a) that labour made a right royal mess in their 13 years and (b) that the coalition and now the conservatives on their own again, actually did quite a lot of things right, though of course with some humdingers of errors too

Fred must have the government that he wanted otherwise he would have voted.

No.

Nobody deserves a government as poor as this one will prove to be.

Perhaps, you should review your own prejudices and entrenchments.

I would suggest you are swallowing the poisonous propaganda from a party of con artists and a leader who you appear to idolise.

Look at the economic figures over the last 20 years with a pair of glasses on and they will make obvious the scale of economic mismanagement by the tory coalition government in the first 3 years of their period in supposed control.

As posted before all governments make mistakes but you appear to be in a state of denial!

But are you wiping out of memory, deficit and debt.

Go back to waiting.

Fred is what some call a Neo-cheat:

They merely ignore the topic and invent a new (often false) cause to defend with.

eg.

Q. You cannot tell the time, can you?
A. I haven't time to look at my watch, I'm a very busy person and I've got more important things to do.

And what is worse, a Neo-cheat does it again and again and again. So the only way to get anywhere with a Neo-cheat, because you will NEVER WIN ANY ARGUMENT, is to just dump him/her and cease the relationship completely.

See if you can spot how Fred immediately ignores the point at issue and merely jumps to the next (false/irrelevant) cause.

Exec,

Better than being a neo-con!

Are you always honest?

House of Horrors: Shock pics show squalid home so neglected no one noticed ROTTING CORPSE


The body, the son of the occupants, could have been there for up to a month.

It was only discovered when neighbours called the authorities after noticing dead flies on the windows of the property.

When officers arrived at the filthy home in Merseyside to an overpowering stench, one quipped: "Have you got a dead body upstairs?"

As they made their way upstairs that light-hearted comment proved true as they came across a doorway surrounded by thousands of insects.

More at the link...

Her indoors:

"Shock pies? No wonder there's flies!"