goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 18 May 2015 11:03
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PS.
Have a look at the schools and hospitals built under Maggie's period of disaster and labours period. Also look at the decline in the infrastructure over the last 5 years.
cynic
- 18 May 2015 11:06
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have a look at labour's own profligacy and tell us about how empty the coffers were when labour were kicked out into the street
when you've worked that out, tell us how you would have paid for a shedload of new infrastructure etc etc without pushing the country to the dire levels of greece, italy and even france
MaxK
- 18 May 2015 11:23
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Lets not let facts get in the way of a good rant c!
Fred1new
- 18 May 2015 11:29
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Well when you have your heart attack, I hope there is a bed in the annex next to the morgue for you.
That the scanners and labs have been sold off to pay the debts.
The nurses and doctors are part timer agency staff and the paramedics are considering whether to walk out or not. Perhaps, emigrate to France or Germany or the "colonies".
MaxK
- 18 May 2015 11:35
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cynic
- 18 May 2015 11:50
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fred - especially as you refuse to vote, you have got the gov't you deserve
though you have a right to whinge as much as not to vote, your posts might carry more or even some weight if you were not so prejudiced and entrenched in your views
every single post of yours is so left-wing biased and thus losing most merit that there might be
you never ever let yourself consider (a) that labour made a right royal mess in their 13 years and (b) that the coalition and now the conservatives on their own again, actually did quite a lot of things right, though of course with some humdingers of errors too
Haystack
- 18 May 2015 11:53
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Fred must have the government that he wanted otherwise he would have voted.
Fred1new
- 18 May 2015 12:02
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No.
Nobody deserves a government as poor as this one will prove to be.
Perhaps, you should review your own prejudices and entrenchments.
I would suggest you are swallowing the poisonous propaganda from a party of con artists and a leader who you appear to idolise.
Look at the economic figures over the last 20 years with a pair of glasses on and they will make obvious the scale of economic mismanagement by the tory coalition government in the first 3 years of their period in supposed control.
As posted before all governments make mistakes but you appear to be in a state of denial!
But are you wiping out of memory, deficit and debt.
Go back to waiting.
Fred1new
- 18 May 2015 13:33
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Exec,
Better than being a neo-con!
Are you always honest?
ExecLine
- 18 May 2015 13:37
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House of Horrors: Shock pics show squalid home so neglected no one noticed ROTTING CORPSE
The body, the son of the occupants, could have been there for up to a month.
It was only discovered when neighbours called the authorities after noticing dead flies on the windows of the property.
When officers arrived at the filthy home in Merseyside to an overpowering stench, one quipped: "Have you got a dead body upstairs?"
As they made their way upstairs that light-hearted comment proved true as they came across a doorway surrounded by thousands of insects.
More at the link...
hilary
- 18 May 2015 14:00
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Doc,
Some might call him a neo-cheat. Most folks, however, just call him a sheep-sh@gging tosser.
Haystack
- 18 May 2015 14:07
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The Labour Party would be "bankrupt" without cash from trade unions, the head of GMB has warned, after Unite threatened to disaffiliate if the party picked the wrong leader.
Paul Kenny, the GMB's general secretary, said that the Labour Party would be unable to fight another general election if affiliated unions withdrew their financial support.
The GMB in 2013 said it planned to pull £1 million funding from Labour in response to proposed reforms to trade union affiliation from Ed Miliband.
But Mr Kenny said it did not ultimately do so after changes to the reforms and because "the Labour party, if we pulled out, would be bankrupt".
Asked if a severing of the trade union link would be the end of the world for Labour, he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "It would be in terms of the way the current political make-up is structured... If you took away support from affiliated unions financially it is difficult to see how the Labour Party would fight a national election."
2517GEORGE
- 18 May 2015 14:45
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With so many Unite linked Labour MP's funding will not be withdrawn.
2517
Fred1new
- 18 May 2015 14:52
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The lady with wet knickers seems to be back and she has them in a twist.
Somebody take them off for her and give her a cold bath.
Mind, I could find for her a blind old ram, which would probably suit her down to ground, as she seems down on her luck.
Poor bloody ram!
Mind they both may a suitable members of the tea party.
ExecLine
- 18 May 2015 15:29
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From a BT page
Opinion: Was there more behind Chuka Umunna's decision to quit Labour leadership contest?
Chuka Umunna's sudden withdrawal from the Labour Party leader race has shocked everyone, writes Chris Moncrieff.
Chuka Umunna
By Chris Moncrieff
Last updated: 18 May 2015, 15:09
The sudden decision by shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna to quit the Labour leadership battle - which he was fancied to win - sent shock waves through his own party, and astonished everyone else at Westminster too.
Only four days after throwing his hat in the ring, his excuse for walking away was that he was uncomfortable with the level of intrusion, involving both himself and his family, with which he would have to contend.
But sharp-suited Umunna, one of the most astute of all MPs at Westminster, surely was aware of the intense curiosity about someone's background if they're aiming to be a major party leader. And that is why his reasoning was greeted with such incredulity on all sides.
He seemed to have fulfilled, to the letter, the mantra, "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen". But was there more to it than that?
Some say he realised that if he won the crown this time, his prospects of becoming Prime Minister were not good. He was entering too early in the parliamentary process. Significantly, he has not ruled out fighting at a later stage.
Or could it even be that Labour grandees felt a man who reputedly patronises an exclusive and highly expensive London club (where a bottle of Cognac can set you back £3,500) would not go down well with the horny-handed sons of toil which the party is supposed to represent?
Prima donna politicians
Why are politicians such bad losers? Within hours, almost, of Labour's defeat, the knives were out for Ed Miliband.
People who, ostensibly at least, had been supporting him leadership for five years, suddenly rounded on him as "useless" and other derogatory epithets.
The Labour MP Caroline Flint, who is planning to stand for the deputy leadership of the party, says that Labour is now fighting for its very existence.
But even more striking than all that is the turmoil which is now engulfing Ukip. Its blokeish leader Nigel Farage was suddenly and astonishingly accused by one of his most trusted lieutenants, Patrick O'Flynn, the MEP, as "snarling, thin-skinned, aggressive".
When O'Flynn worked in the Press Gallery of the House of Commons before he entered politics, I found him a cheerful, amiable, mild-mannered individual who would never say anything ill about anybody.
That is why his ferocious attack on Farage is all the more surprising.
Farage kept his word and resigned the leadership after his defeat at Thanet South. But then a handful of party grandees said he should remain as leader. So, controversially, he came back.
Many in the party believe he should have taken the "short break" - which one of his new-found critics insolently advised him to do - and wait for an all-party leadership process in which he could legitimately take part.
Ukip polled four million votes on May 7 and secured just one seat, Douglas Carswell's Clacton. Now Carswell is having a row with the leadership over the amount of public money he and the party should accept for maintaining their offices.
Politicians seem incapable of accepting defeat with a good grace. Instead they are behaving like prima donna Premiership footballers.
Ed's guru flop
I hope (but I very much doubt) that Labour did not spend too much money on David Axelrod, the American guru, who was hired to help them win the general election.
Axelrod, the man who reputedly got Obama into the White House, appeared to conduct much of his business for the Labour Party from the other side of the Atlantic - which cannot have been very satisfactory for Ed Miliband.
It might have made more sense if Axelrod had been hired on a "no win, no fee" basis.
Charitable approach needs looking at
I hope the Government cracks down hard on the bullying tactics of many charities, whose "hounding" of Britain's longest-serving poppy seller, Olive Cooke, 92, may have contributed to her apparent suicide in a gorge in Bristol.
This tragic case has highlighted the sometimes ruthless tactics employed by certain charities to extract money out of often vulnerable old-age pensioners.
These charities are sometimes too ready to submit cold calls and avalanches of expensive marketing material through the letterbox, turning them into slick business concerns rather than charity appeals.
If businesses in the private sector adopted these kinds of methods, they would almost certainly be acting illegally.
NOTE: Chris Moncrieff, the Press Association's reporter emeritus, has stalked Westminster's corridors of power for over 50 years. This article reflects the opinions of the writer, not any corporate view held by BT.
VICTIM
- 18 May 2015 15:52
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I don't give a penny to charity anymore , it's just an employment bureau . Endless things stuffed through your door , but for who.
2517GEORGE
- 18 May 2015 15:56
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VICTIM----We all give to charity whether we want to or not.
2517