Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Or better than that, send Boris and IDS in the underpants, so they can have a laugh.

little fred 6031, you seem to have the same mindset as those murderers in the
Charlie Hebdo massacre and the recent attack on the night club in Turkey plus
the many other atrocities carried out..

You're not one of those from the religion of peace are you?!!!...

Fred , the only thing they need to know is that we are leaving and will no longer be abiding by their crappy rules and regulations.

They want a deal that's up to them.

Hardly need a brain surgeon to get that message across.

I don't recollect there being this much fuss when the EU was stripping us of the powers that we now want returned.
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Dil,

Apply for the Tim Barrow's job when it comes up.

The UK sorely needs somebody with your negotiating skills.

PS, take GB to Brussels with you and leave him there.

i know it sounds rather supercilious, for which i apologise, but a number of you on here are either incredibly naive or blinkered or wear rose-tinted specs or any combination of same

nothing but nothing can or will be speedy, let alone straightforward and simple in breaking (to a greater or lesser degree) with EU nor in setting up separate and/or new trade deals in the rest of the world

Manuel,

I would never make the first remark regading you.

(I would just choose different words. (8-) )

But I agree with you second comment.

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(Sometimes I wish we hadn't banned one of the words you used frequently in the past.)

We know that C ( you do sound supercillious and Brexit could be protracted) and the EU will not help. It can't help itself. IMO, a clean break with little or no negotiation, will not be a hard Brexit, but an easy Brexit. There is no point in even trying to deal with the tower of Babel when just one Belgian district can stymie an agreement for years. Let that come later, at our timing, when the European Disunion comes to realise the consequences of playing games with one of the largest European economies. The ED as we know it is likely to fall apart anyway in the meantime. Meanwhile continue trading under WTO rules.

Well said iturama.

It's the remoaners who are living in cloud cuckoo land and demanding we negotiate this that and the bloody other on things we have no control over.

What will be delivered is no freedom of movement and no more European Court of Injustice.

huff and puff as much as you like, but brexit negotiations will prove to be protracted
it is an opiate fantasy to imagine that there will be a guillotine on the relationship with eu coupled to a magic wand of trade deals across the rest of the world

The village idiot at it again , never lets you down .

re- village idiot

you can say again
Just like Corbin ( hold to ransom by the Bitches ( some say )
have you noticed they are around him and protecting him and guiding him to the dark places, when is not to their liking

Be careful Vicky may be jealous.

No I'm convinced you are just a sad git who tries to spoil peoples hopes and dreams , you have to do it don't you , ad nauseam just to fulfill some part of your life or you just hate English people , blah blah blah go on carry on .

TAKING the P!SS

The women above none worth a penny by their looks
but the picture below is worth much more for the Gay magazine

fred really does manage to wind you guys up, which of course is his intent
i used to be the same, but have moved on a long way past that

He doesn't wind me up just bores the socks off me , for an intelligent man it's so disappointing .

i confess i read few of his posts, except when he responds to mine

GB i found far too annoying, so i banished him to Outer Darkness a month or two back

cynic

re - fred

I am sure that most of his content on the post are his ideological ideas, if those ideas are Trotskyism / Marxism,
left wing ( socialist ) or who knows is another thing, certainly are not for today's way of life.
But after all, most likely he is ready for the box ( not a wish ), but has a bit of entertainment on the net till then