skinny
- 21 Jan 2015 06:30
hangon
- 10 Nov 2018 13:43
- 607 of 638
Typical of UK Gov penpushers not to require beneficiaries of "Eco-Tax" to actually use the thing. Having taken the money to buy their shiny status-symbol, they drive about using the petrol-engine to charge the battery. We all know where the nearest charging-station is - don't we? .... probably two which will be in use for at least 2-hours so you might as well continue your journey using petrol.
IMHO Eco-Hybrid cars are a thin-edge tech....so battery/motor tech can be given green credentials ( and their Users- Huh!), whilst using massive amounts of energy to construct and mine the raw materials.
If Gov really want to be "green" ( does anyone?), then any product over £2000 should have the energy-cost included in the User-Guide . . . so we can see how much energy has already been used . . . a clue possibly is the cost, which is "probably" the nearest measure.
For example a car that's mass-produced might cost £15k, whereas one that is more-refined, or hand-built ( does the same job), is £60k; then I believe it needs to last 4x longer to "repay" the higher energy premium.
Lithium is not easy to obtain... most is located at depths ( e.g. in Canada), so mining is not easy and then it has to be processed... finally batteries don't last for ever, their capacity "runs-down" from the day of manufacture - typically halving in just over 5-years. This means replacement is ever-looming and as our betters in EU didn't think to make Mfrs use a common battery-pack - the consumer is at the mercy of Mfrs who can "charge what they like"
I invested in [KOD], only as a "hope" their African mine might come good...
but not so far!
Grr!
hangon
- 08 Jan 2019 21:22
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little woman - Hybrid charging -
Hi, I guess many folks ( country-wide) will be parking in the road, so they can't run out a lead for charging. Also, if there is no external charge-point/socket that's probably going to be expensive to install. Do you have an isolation switch indoors? That would prevent someone else having a free charge when you are away. Furthermore, if it's a hybrid there is little incentive to do more than pour in Petrol - as you said Folk are Lazy.
Whilst I can't disagree with your running-costs, Hybrid cars are more-expensive than a similar model without all that extra stuff - and could have a greater loading space.... so you should factor-in the money you are losing by not investing the difference.
BTW does your husband declare the charging-benefit on his tax return? It is possible, as Electric cars become commonplace, "free" charges will have to be declared; - since it's a Benefit in Kind.
Also, you will need to budget for battery-replacement - probably well before 10-years -
New battery-tech is "aimed-for" - but so far Zippo . . . . When it happens that will give cars a 500+mile run, which might mean there is no point in having a hybrid.
I suspect this will not happen before 10 years - but it might . . . it's like LED's - now we have White and Blue, yet these were unavailable until fairly recently, at decent prices. Battery tech is lagging demands... er, IMHO.
Stan
- 21 Jan 2019 09:49
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That's very interesting and if our Governments can get to grips with this development in the future and cooperate with the car companies then who knows what the outcome will be.