Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

i'm sure i'ld rather eat the food in cascais than the slappers in kos :-)

France and Germany in secret 'No thanks' pact against Britain:

Cameron humiliated as Hollande and Merkel tighten their grip and rule out EU treaty change

Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande agree deal to tighten political union

Franco-German pact shores up Eurozone without EU treaty change

PM has vowed to use treaty change to enact string of key demands

Came as PM held talks with EU chief Jean-Claude Juncker at Chequers



By Tom McTague, Deputy Political Editor for MailOnline


David Cameron's hopes of securing changes to the EU's treaties within the next two years were left in tatters this morning after France and Germany stitched up a secret deal bypassing the UK to tighten their grip on Europe.

The Prime Minister held talks with the European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker at Chequers last night – pushing his plan to overhaul Britain's relationship with Brussels before holding an in/our referendum in 2017.

But he was left humiliated after a pact between French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel was leaked ruling out the need for EU treaty change – a key plank of Mr Cameron's planned renegotiation.




read the comments:

more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3097110/Cameron-humiliated-France-Germany-tighten-grip-Europe-secret-pact-dubbed-Le-No-Thanks-Britain.html

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Worth a read if you want an alternative to the msn.


https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/analysis-the-eurozone-same-old-song-contest/

How come these people can do secret deals and pacts at their leisure , doesn't that tell the rest of the Members this isn't some nice little democratic offering we are dealing with here .

Whoops! What have we let in?

Bloody Plebs!

http://conservativewoman.co.uk/david-keighley-camerons-eu-referendum-is-a-sham-that-will-change-nothing/

Good to see the U-turn government is continuing to meander.

The Con party starts to shred its own Manifesto.

Human Rights Act Repeal Bill down the drain.

Dodgy Dave dodging and weaving again.

No wonder Dave is wandering around Europe looking for help.

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Mind he is living in the past of divide and rule foreign policy. It won't work now.

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fred - you are without fail such a predictable tosser, forever pontificating from the sidelines (you refuse to vote, as is your democratic right)

Human Rights Act Repeal Bill down the drain
no it's not ..... the gov't is absolutely right to take its time to draft a much more sensible "uk bill of rights" than that currently thrust upon us along with some loony judgments emanating from europe
this is an exceedingly complex piece of legislation that will quite rightly be widely, deeply and properly debated, and i'm sure will require some amendments regardless of the care taken .... and nothing wrong with that either

That is why it is not in Queen's speech.

Cameron and your rabble couldn't organise a P. up in a brewery.

Promises of to-day, Lies of To-morrow.

Bring back the National People's Party.

That will sort the tossers out!

One-nation conservatism with the various parts being fragmented. (LOL)


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Ducking and weaving for another 5 years and now no Lib/dems to blame.

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A bit like Monty Python's Circuit.

State opening of Parliament and Queen's speech now on BBC 1

Isn't just great that we don't have a Labour government. When Miliband took the loyal oath in the Commons he went to shake hands with the Speaker and knocked over his glass of water and spilt it over himself. Good riddance Mr Bean!

hays - an apparent valid point of fred's though i don't think it actually is ......

do you know why this "new" bill of rights is not in the queen's speech? ...... to the best of my knowledge - ie updated this morning - it's still very much on the agenda

It will be in the Queen's speech.

As I posted that she said "My government will bring forward a Bill of Rights".

so fred is talking through his arse for a change then

What is going to happen is that the timetable for the Bill will allow longer to consider the details. I guess they have pushed it back slightly due to some opposition from members of the Conservative party. They won't want to deal with any minor rebellions too early in the Parliament.

Will a british bill of rights be worth a toss if the €uro courts have primacy?

Pie in the Sky again for hard working people!

What a load of b.s.!

This government is hoisted by their own petard!

LOL.

Postponement!

8-)


Watered down and peed out dreams. empty and false promises.

Does Cameron have to sign the "pledge"!