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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic - 15 Nov 2012 16:08 - 6051 of 6906

he doesn't even have the excuse of the north koreans who have been told of the immense success of their athletes at the olympics

Haystack - 15 Nov 2012 16:11 - 6052 of 6906

There speaks a supporter of Israel.All Israel know is aggression. They have never talked peace in any meaningful way. The good thing is that Israel is becoming more and more isolated. They have the same few friends with more countries turning against them. It will be interesting to see the vote after Nov 29 when Palestine apply for recognition at the UN. the vote should be around 130 or more for and maybe 20 against.

Haystack - 15 Nov 2012 16:20 - 6053 of 6906

12 EU countries will vote for Palestine to have observer status. The vote needs only a simple majority. After Palestine get UN observer membership they can file war crimes and crimes against humanity at the Hague International Criminal Court against Israel. This would include charges against individuals such as Netenyahu, Israel's various defence ministers. Guilty verdicts would preclude all foreign travel as there would be obligations of arrest on all members countries of the UN. certainly the 131 who vote for Palestine would arrest Israeli individuals.

TANKER - 15 Nov 2012 17:10 - 6054 of 6906

the un can not have terrorist round the table .

Haystack - 15 Nov 2012 17:15 - 6055 of 6906

In the past few minutes there have been air raid sirens and explosions heard in Tel Aviv with rockets landing in the outskirts. Hamas have rockets that can reach Tel Aviv and central Israel, but have chosen not to use them before.

Stan - 15 Nov 2012 17:23 - 6056 of 6906

Just to lighten the posts up a bit, On R4 they have just introduced Tory Blair as a "peace envoy".. Yes Blair! I kid you not. It would be almost funny if it wasn't true that he has been given such a dishonest title.

Haystack - 15 Nov 2012 17:36 - 6057 of 6906

Blair has been the middle east envoy for the last few years. He seems to spend his time staining in luxury hotels and little else.

Haystack - 15 Nov 2012 17:43 - 6058 of 6906

He is the official envoy of the Quartet on the Middle East and has been since 2007.

Stan - 15 Nov 2012 17:54 - 6059 of 6906

Yes we know that but it still makes me feel uneasy when I here the term "Peace Envoy" and "Tory Blair" in the same sentence.

Fred1new - 15 Nov 2012 21:00 - 6060 of 6906

Hays,

Was that a deliberate mistake "to spend his time staining in luxury hotels". If not some of your mistakes are better than others.

Even though you are probably a right winged "tory" and bull headed I agree with your sentiment and and believe that the majority of the "provocation" is due to the settlements being wrong initially and not held to by the various Israeli administrations.

The present Israeli government are criminal in their actions as far as the rights of non-jews are concerned.

Somebody wrote to me to say was goes round, comes around and this will be the ultimate response to disproportionate murder which is being carried out in the name of the Israeli people.

If I had my home stolen, my olive groves ploughed up and my land and rights taken away form me, I would be prepared to fight to regain them, in any way I thought possible to get them back.

Preferably, through the International courts, but if they are rigged against me with any available weapon, to draw attention to the abuses that I had been and still are subjected to.
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Stan,

Tory Blair ummmh.

Tony B.Liar is more appropriate.

But do try and keep out of trouble while I am in Paris.

Leave the little tinker alone, he can't help himself.

Stan - 15 Nov 2012 21:23 - 6061 of 6906

Fred,

Hope your having a good time in France.

Still waiting for a reply to my question as far as Tanks is concerned, think he needs to take up a hobby of some kind rather then continually coming on here and ranting away at people.

As far as Blair is concerned I expect he will get just deserts one day.

ahoj - 15 Nov 2012 23:07 - 6062 of 6906

Tanker,
Accept that killing is wrong.

At least 18 people were killed since yesterday. The killing is fundamentally wrong and esclates the violance.

What would you do if you were linked to one of the 18? Just think a bit!!

Gausie - 16 Nov 2012 02:55 - 6063 of 6906

I've just sent the Israeli embassy an email - I think I've come up with a practical idea that will stop the rockets and mortar fire raining down on Israel, thereby removing any need for further bloodshed.

Will let you know what they say.

Haystack - 16 Nov 2012 04:09 - 6064 of 6906

The cause of the escalation is down to Israel. On Monday/Tuesday Gaza and Israel were attempting to arrange a ceasefire. The ceasefire agreement document had been handed to Gaza and in particular it was given to the Hamas person who was assassinated. He drove away from the handover and was killed by Israel. No wonder Hamas are annoyed and are now firing at Tel Aviv.

TANKER - 16 Nov 2012 08:07 - 6065 of 6906

the prisident of hamas is a terrorist and a liar
do you no were the money and aid to gaza goes .
do you no were he owns property
do you no where is family and children live .
when you can answers this question
HAY and give the facts then you may wake up
he as made is fortune out of being a crook
he is dishonest .
come on HAY answer these questions

Stan - 16 Nov 2012 08:09 - 6066 of 6906

"The ceasefire agreement document had been handed to Gaza and in particular it was given to the Hamas person who was assassinated. He drove away from the handover and was killed by Israel."

Interesting H/S, I didn't know that, have you got a link to that?

cynic - 16 Nov 2012 08:13 - 6067 of 6906

if i have read correctly, i note that a ceasefire has now been agreed, short-lived as that will probably be .... the interesting bit was that egypt is going in as peacemaker, which as a country now run by MB, is slightly curious .... of course, it is quite likely that egypt has been chosen to front this by the muslim league (pathetic bunch that they are), as egypt will be acceptable to hamas and israel still has a lingering rapport with that country

Haystack - 16 Nov 2012 08:15 - 6068 of 6906

Do you know that most of Israel's leaders were once 'terrorists' killing the British in Palestine just after the war. Terrorists make the transition to freedom fighters once they achieve their goals. The Israelis are the terrorists as they are fighting in another people's land.

mnamreh - 16 Nov 2012 08:19 - 6069 of 6906

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Haystack - 16 Nov 2012 08:21 - 6070 of 6906

Stan

There are lots of links to the story. This one is from the Jewish Journal

http://www.jewishjournal.com/israel/article/israeli_peace_activist_says_hamas_jabari_received_truce_documentand_israel

How can you ever trust Israel.
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