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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 05 Jun 2015 14:47 - 60641 of 81564

TANKER - 05 Jun 2015 15:08 - 60642 of 81564

ex. its not the benefits that are the problem its that brits can not benefits in the eu
we have to take out insurance . so how the hell can we be apart of the eu

let the brits get the same benefits as the ones coming here and the problem is solved
I want to move to the sun . but I am dammed if I am going pay for medical when I have paid taxes all my life and still paying taxes at 67

not one mp will give me a answer

cynic - 05 Jun 2015 16:12 - 60643 of 81564

on a similar vein ..... try taking a spanish company to court for non-payment of debt ...... it's hahaha!

TANKER - 05 Jun 2015 16:27 - 60644 of 81564

cynic very true . why does Cameron turn round ask the eu why are brits barred from all benefits in the eu I am a pensioner and like a bit of sun why should I have to take out insurance if we are apart of the eu .
I should allowed to use all medical resources in the eu
but are not allowed
the nhs card is worthless in france and spain Portugal. the first thing they ask you is it cash or card or insurance you pay us then claim back your money when you get home

TANKER - 05 Jun 2015 16:32 - 60645 of 81564

rules must apply to all countries or non if they want FED EU then go for it or its unworkable

Fred1new - 06 Jun 2015 07:54 - 60646 of 81564

Looking for his Manuel!

Fred1new - 06 Jun 2015 08:01 - 60647 of 81564

required field - 06 Jun 2015 08:59 - 60648 of 81564

Cameron wants rid of corruption.......well....looks like some UK household names are going down the plughole then....

Fred1new - 06 Jun 2015 10:45 - 60649 of 81564

RF.

Gosh!

Is Dodgy Dave going to resign?

Or is he going to allow the bankers a financial boys off the leash again, in order to fill the party coffers once again?

Fred1new - 07 Jun 2015 08:49 - 60650 of 81564

Fred1new - 07 Jun 2015 08:49 - 60651 of 81564

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cynic - 07 Jun 2015 14:49 - 60652 of 81564

fred - you may fancy yourself as a harpie, but can you not find a different harp and tune to play?

Fred1new - 07 Jun 2015 16:01 - 60653 of 81564

Manuel writes and I hope moves on!

For the waiter and little englanders!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/06/poland-warns-david-cameron-over-eu-referendum

Poland warns David Cameron not to fool voters over EU referendum



The British people must be told the brutal truth about the damaging consequences of leaving the European Union, and not be duped into believing that they can “keep all the goodies and forget about the costs”, the Polish minister in charge of EU policy says.

In an outspoken interview with the Observer, Rafał Trzaskowski, Poland’s secretary of state for European affairs, who met David Cameron 10 days ago in Warsaw, says that if political leaders do not tell the people of the UK the facts in advance of the planned in/out referendum, many will vote to leave, unaware of the devastating consequences.


50 Conservative MPs ready to lead campaign for EU exit
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The minister, who reiterates his country’s refusal to accept Cameron’s central demand – that social benefits should be denied to all EU migrants for at least four years after arriving in the UK – says Britain would no longer be an important player, in Europe or the world, if it left the EU. He warns that the ability of British people to travel as freely as they do now, and to work and buy homes in other EU countries, would also be lost, and that UK businesses would suddenly face new problems, as the country would no longer be able to influence the rules of the internal market.

Trzaskowski, reflecting growing fears in the EU that the UK government is setting itself unrealistic targets for reform which British people are being led to believe are achievable, says all European leaders want Britain to stay in the UK, but not if it means undermining EU principles, such as the free movement of labour. “No one in Europe says, ‘We don’t care, take it or leave it.’ No, we say, ‘Guys, OK, some of your fears are justified, some of your sensibilities should be taken into account, and some of your idiosyncrasies, even though for us they might seem strange. We should talk about it.’ We do not say ship out. But there are certain red lines. We cannot start questioning the cornerstones of integration, because it will have far-reaching consequences.”

Asked whether he fears the British people might vote to leave, he says: “It really depends on how the whole thing is depicted by British political parties to the British people – what kind of alternative is painted. If you say you can leave and still be part of the internal market, keep your [second] houses, that you will still be free to travel, that there will be no customs duties, and so on – but that you will not have to accept free movement of workers, and you will not pay into the EU budget, of course people will vote [to leave] … but this is simply not true.”


Brexit – what would happen if Britain left the EU?
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Trzaskowski adds: “If Great Britain leaves, it will minimise its role. I am not trying to be patronising. I think we have to be frank with the British people when we talk about their future in the European Union. Many people in Europe want to be accommodating … but if the demands are too extreme, they are not going to be met.

“You cannot keep all the goodies and forget about the costs. Britain will still have to pay into the EU budget, just as the Swiss and Norwegians do. It would have no influence over the decisions yet it would have to subscribe to all the rules. London would not be that sexy a place for capital movement because it would have much looser links to Europe.”

German chancellor Angela Merkel suggested last week that her country would do all in its power to try to meet British demands during a wide-ranging renegotiation of its membership ahead of the referendum. But it is understood that Berlin also believes that the key British demand – to deny migrants who are in work the same social benefits as UK residents – would amount to a fundamental breach of EU law.

Cameron is now urging fellow European leaders to reach an outline deal on the UK’s demands, which also include an opt-out from the EU commitment to “ever-closer union”, by the end of this year, in time for the referendum to be held next year. Should he fail to secure reform on his terms, more than 50 Tory MPs are poised to lead the campaign for the UK to quit the EU. Former cabinet ministers Owen Paterson and John Redwood are among backers of the newly formed Conservatives for Britain (CfB) that will initially support the prime minister’s bid to renegotiate terms of membership for the UK, according to the Sunday Telegraph.

Poland, whose economy has strengthened since it joined the EU in 2004, now sees itself as a central player in the union and is determined to defend the rights of the 700,000 Polish citizens in the UK, the vast majority of whom are in work.

Trzaskowski says that just because Cameron feels strengthened by his general election victory, Poland will not roll over. “We cannot say simply that we sit around the table and you say, ‘This is my manifesto and I won the elections on the basis of it, so cave in and accept it.’”

Ukip leader Nigel Farage said that his party must waste no time before beginning a “ground war” to leave the European Union. He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that the prime minister “is simply not asking for enough” in the renegotiation.



TANKER - 08 Jun 2015 07:33 - 60654 of 81564

Rafał Trzaskowski, Poland’s secretary of state for European .

why will this man not speak and answer questions on other eu members.
not getting nhs and other benefits in Poland they are told to go home ,

fact, a brit can not get a doctor unless he as insurance or cash

double standards its time Cameron put the question to him in public

Fred1new - 08 Jun 2015 07:45 - 60655 of 81564



Up and over!

Fred1new - 08 Jun 2015 07:48 - 60656 of 81564



My requests will be so small, I hope nobody will notice and I can sell that to the party.

I will just fag along behind them. Nobody will notice me!


required field - 08 Jun 2015 08:45 - 60657 of 81564

One of the biggest issues in the UK or it should be is to stem the (illegal) drug culture that has got a grip on certain aspects of our society......these drugs change peoples personalities and something happens to their comportment, behaviour and general manners.....not picking out a certain lady being escorted off a plane (not saying drugs) but .....it's this sort of thing that happens...people go off the rails....cannabis, pot or whatever you call it is wrecking lives, their lives and the lives of people around them....and some nutcases want to legalise some of it.....blinkin' nuts !....these drugs effect you way after stopping use...the mind goes....

Fred1new - 08 Jun 2015 09:19 - 60658 of 81564

Is criminalising "said drugs" reducing the use, or the abuse of these "drugs", or simply diverting money into "criminalised" activity, or the hands of criminals?


Mind, I wouldn't mind seeing Dodgy Dave and Porky George being prosecuted for past
activities!

Previous habits might explain their present behaviour.

required field - 08 Jun 2015 10:08 - 60659 of 81564

Banning them is one thing....but educating and making people aware of what lies ahead when you start using, breathing this stuff is a must.....this should start at school.....because it seems to me that young people just don't realise what it does to them....their attitude is : "a sort of once or twice doesn't matter".....but the consequences are terrible......I've seen changes in peoples character,.....and a downward spiral begins....

cynic - 08 Jun 2015 10:26 - 60660 of 81564

by and large, children have never taken huge notice, for they know they are immortal and of course there is much peer pressure

however, i'm sure every school has some sort of drugs' education and many ex-serious-users and similar often give lectures

to my surprise, i think it is alcohol that is at least as much if not more of a problem
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