Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

RF.

Gosh!

Is Dodgy Dave going to resign?

Or is he going to allow the bankers a financial boys off the leash again, in order to fill the party coffers once again?

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fred - you may fancy yourself as a harpie, but can you not find a different harp and tune to play?

Manuel writes and I hope moves on!

For the waiter and little englanders!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/06/poland-warns-david-cameron-over-eu-referendum

Poland warns David Cameron not to fool voters over EU referendum



The British people must be told the brutal truth about the damaging consequences of leaving the European Union, and not be duped into believing that they can “keep all the goodies and forget about the costs”, the Polish minister in charge of EU policy says.

In an outspoken interview with the Observer, Rafał Trzaskowski, Poland’s secretary of state for European affairs, who met David Cameron 10 days ago in Warsaw, says that if political leaders do not tell the people of the UK the facts in advance of the planned in/out referendum, many will vote to leave, unaware of the devastating consequences.


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The minister, who reiterates his country’s refusal to accept Cameron’s central demand – that social benefits should be denied to all EU migrants for at least four years after arriving in the UK – says Britain would no longer be an important player, in Europe or the world, if it left the EU. He warns that the ability of British people to travel as freely as they do now, and to work and buy homes in other EU countries, would also be lost, and that UK businesses would suddenly face new problems, as the country would no longer be able to influence the rules of the internal market.

Trzaskowski, reflecting growing fears in the EU that the UK government is setting itself unrealistic targets for reform which British people are being led to believe are achievable, says all European leaders want Britain to stay in the UK, but not if it means undermining EU principles, such as the free movement of labour. “No one in Europe says, ‘We don’t care, take it or leave it.’ No, we say, ‘Guys, OK, some of your fears are justified, some of your sensibilities should be taken into account, and some of your idiosyncrasies, even though for us they might seem strange. We should talk about it.’ We do not say ship out. But there are certain red lines. We cannot start questioning the cornerstones of integration, because it will have far-reaching consequences.”

Asked whether he fears the British people might vote to leave, he says: “It really depends on how the whole thing is depicted by British political parties to the British people – what kind of alternative is painted. If you say you can leave and still be part of the internal market, keep your [second] houses, that you will still be free to travel, that there will be no customs duties, and so on – but that you will not have to accept free movement of workers, and you will not pay into the EU budget, of course people will vote [to leave] … but this is simply not true.”


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Trzaskowski adds: “If Great Britain leaves, it will minimise its role. I am not trying to be patronising. I think we have to be frank with the British people when we talk about their future in the European Union. Many people in Europe want to be accommodating … but if the demands are too extreme, they are not going to be met.

“You cannot keep all the goodies and forget about the costs. Britain will still have to pay into the EU budget, just as the Swiss and Norwegians do. It would have no influence over the decisions yet it would have to subscribe to all the rules. London would not be that sexy a place for capital movement because it would have much looser links to Europe.”

German chancellor Angela Merkel suggested last week that her country would do all in its power to try to meet British demands during a wide-ranging renegotiation of its membership ahead of the referendum. But it is understood that Berlin also believes that the key British demand – to deny migrants who are in work the same social benefits as UK residents – would amount to a fundamental breach of EU law.

Cameron is now urging fellow European leaders to reach an outline deal on the UK’s demands, which also include an opt-out from the EU commitment to “ever-closer union”, by the end of this year, in time for the referendum to be held next year. Should he fail to secure reform on his terms, more than 50 Tory MPs are poised to lead the campaign for the UK to quit the EU. Former cabinet ministers Owen Paterson and John Redwood are among backers of the newly formed Conservatives for Britain (CfB) that will initially support the prime minister’s bid to renegotiate terms of membership for the UK, according to the Sunday Telegraph.

Poland, whose economy has strengthened since it joined the EU in 2004, now sees itself as a central player in the union and is determined to defend the rights of the 700,000 Polish citizens in the UK, the vast majority of whom are in work.

Trzaskowski says that just because Cameron feels strengthened by his general election victory, Poland will not roll over. “We cannot say simply that we sit around the table and you say, ‘This is my manifesto and I won the elections on the basis of it, so cave in and accept it.’”

Ukip leader Nigel Farage said that his party must waste no time before beginning a “ground war” to leave the European Union. He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that the prime minister “is simply not asking for enough” in the renegotiation.

Rafał Trzaskowski, Poland’s secretary of state for European .

why will this man not speak and answer questions on other eu members.
not getting nhs and other benefits in Poland they are told to go home ,

fact, a brit can not get a doctor unless he as insurance or cash

double standards its time Cameron put the question to him in public

Up and over!

My requests will be so small, I hope nobody will notice and I can sell that to the party.

I will just fag along behind them. Nobody will notice me!

One of the biggest issues in the UK or it should be is to stem the (illegal) drug culture that has got a grip on certain aspects of our society......these drugs change peoples personalities and something happens to their comportment, behaviour and general manners.....not picking out a certain lady being escorted off a plane (not saying drugs) but .....it's this sort of thing that happens...people go off the rails....cannabis, pot or whatever you call it is wrecking lives, their lives and the lives of people around them....and some nutcases want to legalise some of it.....blinkin' nuts !....these drugs effect you way after stopping use...the mind goes....

Is criminalising "said drugs" reducing the use, or the abuse of these "drugs", or simply diverting money into "criminalised" activity, or the hands of criminals?


Mind, I wouldn't mind seeing Dodgy Dave and Porky George being prosecuted for past
activities!

Previous habits might explain their present behaviour.

Banning them is one thing....but educating and making people aware of what lies ahead when you start using, breathing this stuff is a must.....this should start at school.....because it seems to me that young people just don't realise what it does to them....their attitude is : "a sort of once or twice doesn't matter".....but the consequences are terrible......I've seen changes in peoples character,.....and a downward spiral begins....

by and large, children have never taken huge notice, for they know they are immortal and of course there is much peer pressure

however, i'm sure every school has some sort of drugs' education and many ex-serious-users and similar often give lectures

to my surprise, i think it is alcohol that is at least as much if not more of a problem

face facts its not the drugs or booze its no law . the nanny state is the problem
bring back punishment birch those breaking the law ever Saturday at football matches before and half time . that would stop crime
do not blame alcohol or drugs . get back to law and order .

wh do people always blame the tools its the user

MrT - if children are not taught about alcohol (and drug) abuse, much of which should come from the parents, then there is some inevitability in the outcome

a parallel is that violent and abusive households are likely to produce the same in the children, who will see such behaviour as the norm and therefore acceptable

Obama poking is big nose and big mouth in to uk membership of the eu

the man is a racist he has turned the states in to a shit hole
a man with no balls no guts a wimp .
the sooner the shit is gone the better

Hey, what were your parents like?

cynic if their was punishment their parents would never have broken the law
that's the problem . if breaking the law and rules is not dealt with then you see the results

unfortunately, your simplistic solution is easily shown to be no solution at all!

Tanker

Is English a foreign language to you laddy?

So you think the birch is the answer to everything, do you? It's high time you had a good thrashing with the birch for being so utterly lazy with your spelling and grammar.

Now get to the back of the class! And when you get there, take the Dunce's Cap out of the cupboard and you can stay in the corner for the rest of the day.

In fact, one more incorrectly spelt word from you and you will get 6 of the birch on your arse every day for the next month.

Tanker

The birch, or indeed violence of any kind is never the magic answer to any problem.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/08/harriet-harman-casts-doubt-over-ed-milibands-economic-credibility

Many Labour supporters feel relieved the party is not in power under Ed Miliband, the acting leader, Harriet Harman, has said.

In a frank assessment, Harman said Miliband’s personal performance and lack of trust towards the party on the economy “combined together” to contribute to the election defeat.

Her analysis counters the argument made by some of Miliband’s allies that his election bid failed because “lazy Labour” supporters did not turn out to vote.